Originally posted by chaney3I certainly not going to indulge the little trip-trollist forum wet-dreams of a guy who can't even decide if he's a Christian or not 😉
Can you prove that God exists?
Can you prove Jesus existed?
Can you prove that Jesus is God?
Can you prove that God may be wrong, and Allah is right?
Dive. You can't.
Are you going to remain biased based on your background and past?
Originally posted by JakeChessFair enough!
I think that as humans, we can't comprehend what goes on outside of our little bubble of information. We know what is here, sometimes we even know why, but we do not know exactly what the catalyst is. So by the logic that humans can't comprehend the idea of something so immense, what is there to say that anyone has it right? Alternatively, you could go the mo ...[text shortened]... is true to you, than it is true. Therefore, all religions and lack thereof are equally true/untrue.
Drop the 'creator' requirement and I see gods all over the place. You, for example. If the cells of your body were sentient, they could search forever and never find your consciousness - they would never find your mind, it would be (to them) exactly as if your feelings and thoughts do not exist after all.
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by chaney3Well, playing devil's advocate, you can't actually prove you exist! (perhaps the words I'm quoting just come from some sophisticated yet random server-side post generator that never got commented out)
Can you prove that God exists?
Can you prove Jesus existed?
Can you prove that Jesus is God?
Can you prove that God may be wrong, and Allah is right?
Dive. You can't.
Are you going to remain biased based on your background and past?
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by apathistExactly! I believe that many, if not all organized religions, are reactionary and striving to know what we can't truly know. One can look up at the stars and ask "Who do you think put them there?" and the person beside him could say "What says they had to be put there?" or some other such thing. Then you start getting into the argument of solipsism vs materialism, whether you are real, or anything/everything is real. But that would be opening an entire can of worms I would rather leave closed for the moment. Of course, you have individualistic religions that hinge somewhat on satisfaction of the individual before everything else like LaVeyan Satanism and such.
Fair enough!
Drop the 'creator' requirement and I see gods all over the place. You, for example. If the cells of your body were sentient, they could search forever and never find your consciousness - they would never find your mind, it would be (to them) exactly as if your feelings and thoughts do not exist after all.
Sorry, I got very off track with that. My point is that as human constructs, Religion or lack thereof is subjective, as nothing can be proven or disproven when dealing with things of this nature. Everything is equally wrong and right, a la the concepts put forth by Schrodinger's Cat. We can't open the box, so the cat is perpetually dead and alive. Such is the nature of religion as we know it.
Originally posted by chaney3Getting back to my previous post that supposedly doesn't make sense, if in response to your challenge:
Post something that makes sense please.
If you know for certain that your god is correct.
Prove it
I turned round to you and said:
"Yeah I have proved it ... thanks"
Could you prove that I haven't?
08 Jan 17
Originally posted by AgergBut you haven't proven anything.
Getting back to my previous post that supposedly doesn't make sense, if in response to your challenge:If you know for certain that your god is correct.
Prove it
I turned round to you and said:
"Yeah I have proved it ... thanks"
Could you prove that I haven't?
Try again.