Originally posted by Eladar
Funny how those bound for hell believe all people are bound fir hell.

Whatever makes you feel goid about your rebellious state while you are burning time.

The revolting smugness of the message the likes of which you and sonship propagate, does nothing for the gospel.

Originally posted by divegeester
Sure. Which bit?

The interesting thing in all this is whether or not God impregnated marry with a new fertilised egg, or caused one of her existing eggs to be fertilised. Because if it was an existing egg then the gene for "sinfulness" is carried on the Y chromosome, which is the "male" chromosome. And if sinfulness is a gene, then it can theoretic ...[text shortened]... bryo development, which is probably in tandem with the X chromosome gene. Who knows. Not me.

Bump for chaney3

Originally posted by divegeester
Bump for chaney3

I just don't follow your theory.

A 'sin gene'? If you would like to explain further, please do.

Originally posted by chaney3
I just don't follow your theory.

A 'sin gene'? If you would like to explain further, please do.

I've posted it twice, what part don't you understand?

Here it is again:

The interesting thing in all this is whether or not God impregnated marry with a new fertilised egg, or caused one of her existing eggs to be fertilised. Because if it was an existing egg then the gene for "sinfulness" is carried on the Y chromosome, which is the "male" chromosome. And if sinfulness is a gene, then it can theoretically be identified and removed.

This could of course not be even theoretically scientifically sound as the Y chromosome triggers make embryo development, which is probably in tandem with the X chromosome gene. Who knows. Not me.

Originally posted by chaney3
The miracle must explain how Jesus obtained the Y chromosome.

I will refrain from making this personal, despite your bait.

You are Christian. You believe your god created the entire universe, the sun, Earth, moon, planets and such and created mankind. In order to create mankind it would have HAD to know about a lot more than just the Y chromosome.

What is your problem with an omniscient god being able to just go poof, and there it is, the Y inserted correctly.

Are you questioning your god's omniscient attributes?

Originally posted by sonhouse
You are Christian. You believe your god created the entire universe, the sun, Earth, moon, planets and such and created mankind. In order to create mankind it would have HAD to know about a lot more than just the Y chromosome.

What is your problem with an omniscient god being able to just go poof, and there it is, the Y inserted correctly.

Are you questioning your god's omniscient attributes?

Well, it was something that I had never really thought about before, and was looking for the thoughts of others. A miracle seems to be the primary answer.

But, considering that God created Adam from 'scratch', the Y chromosome would be child's play.

Originally posted by divegeester
I've posted it twice, what part don't you understand?

Here it is again:

The interesting thing in all this is whether or not God impregnated marry with a new fertilised egg, or caused one of her existing eggs to be fertilised. Because if it was an existing egg then the gene for "sinfulness" is carried on the Y chromosome, which is the "male" chromos ...[text shortened]... e embryo development, which is probably in tandem with the X chromosome gene. Who knows. Not me.

Bump for chaney3 (again).

Get it now?

Originally posted by divegeester
Bump for chaney3 (again).

Get it now?

No, I don't get it. I told you I didn't get it last time, but instead of explaining, you merely posted it again.

"Sin gene"? "New egg"?

If this whole chromosome thing was a miracle, then where are you going with this?

Originally posted by chaney3
No, I don't get it. I told you I didn't get it last time, but instead of explaining, you merely posted it again.

"Sin gene"? "New egg"?

If this whole chromosome thing was a miracle, then where are you going with this?

If the embryo of the sin free Jesus came from an egg from one of Mary's ovaries which was supernaturally fertilised by a sin free God, then that would indicate that the chromosomes in the eggs of women are sin free and that sin is carried in the male chromosome. Therefore, original sin is carried genetically through the human male and therefore could, in principled at least, be cut from the genome prior to fertilisation.

If however the embryo of Jesus came from a brand new created egg which was implanted into Mary, then Christ was indeed a completely new Adam.

Are you with me?

Originally posted by divegeester
If the embryo of the [b]sin free Jesus came from an egg from one of Mary's ovaries which was supernaturally fertilised by a sin free God, then that would indicate that the chromosomes in the eggs of women are sin free and that sin is carried in the male chromosome. Therefore, original sin is carried genetically through the human male an ...[text shortened]... which was implanted into Mary, then Christ was indeed a completely new Adam.

Are you with me?[/b]

If Jesus did mot have to resist sin, then he would not have been human.

Being tempted by sin is no sin. Failure to resist sin is sin.


Here is how Catholics het around original sin...

https://www.catholic.com/tract/immaculate-conception-and-assumption

Originally posted by Eladar
If Jesus did mot have to resist sin, then he would not have been human.

Being tempted by sin is no sin. Failure to resist sin is sin.


Here is how Catholics het around original sin...

https://www.catholic.com/tract/immaculate-conception-and-assumption

Is your point that Jesus was sinful or sin free?

Not at all interested in what Catholics, thanks.

Originally posted by divegeester
Is your point that Jesus was sinful or sin free?

Not at all interested in what Catholics, thanks.

Sin free of course.