Originally posted by no1marauderAs Rwingett has pointed out to you many times, an atheist "believes" that the theist have utterly failed to prove the existence of God.
As Rwingett has pointed out to you many times, an atheist "believes" that the theist have utterly failed to prove the existence of God. There could conceivably be an afterlife but no God, couldn't there? I believe certain faiths, Buddhists for example, believe in an "afterlife" (perhaps a higher plane of reality would be more accurate - Buddhists help me out here) but not a God.
The atheist will not find God in the same way as a thief cannot find a policeman.
I believe that the God of the Bible is dynamic: He often acts differently; now full of love, then again as avenger. For that reason we may not make images of Him. Because he is the creator, God is totally different from man; He is unrecognizable to man. Logical understanding and intellect cannot explain Him: the intellect is a part of creation, and how can creation, explain the Creator?
God does nevertheless not remain the unknown God. He, who is eternal and unchangeable and incomprehensible to man, reveals a part of His being in his creation. For this he uses the prophets, His law, nature and supernatural intervention in nature. He speaks more directly to man in His Word and informs him of His will.
The atheist will not accept any of this for the reason I mentioned in the beginning.
Originally posted by dj2beckerYour own site concedes that there is no scientific proof of NDE's. They are most likely simply hallucinations influenced by our cultural concepts of an afterlife which are force fed people even from childhood. The fact that someone may not be a "Christian" as a adult does not mean he has shed these perceptions at a subconscious level; it would be perfectly reasonable that someone near death would experience a hallucination in line with what he was taught was going to occur. For a brief debunking of many of the claims of NDE -ers see: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/keith_augustine/HNDEs.shtml
http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html
Originally posted by no1marauder"There is undeniable scientific evidence to-day for the afterlife."
Your own site concedes that there is no scientific proof of NDE's. They are most likely simply hallucinations influenced by our cultural concepts of an afterlife which are force fed people even from childhood. The fact that someone may not be a "Christian" as a adult does not mean he has shed these perceptions at a subconscious level; it woul ...[text shortened]... f the claims of NDE -ers see: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/keith_augustine/HNDEs.shtml
http://www.victorzammit.com/book/chapter01.html
Originally posted by dj2beckerMore reason to believe me when I tell you about Muffy.
[b]As Rwingett has pointed out to you many times, an atheist "believes" that the theist have utterly failed to prove the existence of God.
The atheist will not find God in the same way as a thief cannot find a policeman.
I believe that the God of the Bible is dynamic: He often acts differently; now full of love, then again as avenger. For that ...[text shortened]... will.
The atheist will not accept any of this for the reason I mentioned in the beginning.
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Originally posted by telerionGod by definition is omnipotent. This means that if God was created by Muffy he would no longer be omnipotent. This means that Muffy does not exist, because God's definition of being the omnipotent being in the universe remains. Or maybe you have another dictionary that has another definition of God. By the way there is no dictionary that defines "Muffy". So I'll have to conclude that poor Muffy is a figment of your imagination. And by the way according to your reasoning that Muffy created God, it means Buffy created Muffy. "Buffy" is defined as "Resembling a soft, thick, undyed leather made chiefly from the skins of buffalo". Which is clearly going against all logic because God created buffalos...
More reason to believe me when I tell you about Muffy.
Originally posted by dj2beckerA statement by a guy (who is not a scientist) is not evidence. Scientific study of NDE's have generally concurred that the explanation lie in the human mind, not in an afterlife. If you have some scientific studies to cite that are evidence of an afterlife, please do.
"There is undeniable scientific evidence to-day for the afterlife."
http://www.victorzammit.com/book/chapter01.html
Originally posted by no1marauderHe's a friggin' laywer... and we all know they can't be trusted.
A statement by a guy (who is not a scientist) is not evidence. Scientific study of NDE's have generally concurred that the explanation lie in the human mind, not in an afterlife. If you have some scientific studies to cite that are evidence of an afterlife, please do.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerof course no dictionary can define "muffy" ! muffy is unknowable in this dimension, only a the chosen few have knowlege of muffy revealed to them and then only on the holy day of Blueberrin ,, and Buffy is what Sitting Bully would be sitting in without the hide.
God by definition is omnipotent. This means that if God was created by Muffy he would no longer be omnipotent. This means that Muffy does not exist, because God's definition of being the omnipotent being in the universe remains. Or maybe you have another dictionary that has another definition of God. By the way there is no dictionary that defines "Muffy ...[text shortened]... e skins of buffalo". Which is clearly going against all logic because God created buffalos...