Spirituality
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @apathistTo get to heaven you must be born again.
It looks like to get heaven in your future, it doesn't matter what you do or how you behave, if you properly bend over.
So I lost motivation.
To be born again you must believe that Jesus died for you sins, that His death was substitutionary, that He paid the price for your redemption even when you were already dead in sin, an enemy and were without strength.
Getting to heaven is easy for us, but it wasn't for Jesus. Beaten beyond recognition. Spit upon. Scourged. Mocked. Nailed to a cross. All for our transgressions. Why? John 3:16
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Originally posted by @secondsonOr if Hindus are correct, getting 'born again' is the last thing you want to do if your goal is Nirvana.
To get to heaven you must be born again.
To be born again you must believe that Jesus died for you sins, that His death was substitutionary, that He paid the price for your redemption even when you were already dead in sin, an enemy and were without strength.
Getting to heaven is easy for us, but it wasn't for Jesus. Beaten beyond recognition. Spit upon. Scourged. Mocked. Nailed to a cross. All for our transgressions. Why? John 3:16
Originally posted by @secondsonHow is that not god's fault?
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Getting to heaven is easy for us, but it wasn't for Jesus. Beaten beyond recognition. Spit upon. Scourged. Mocked. Nailed to a cross. All for our transgressions. Why? John 3:16
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI think you're confusing regeneration with reincarnation.
Or if Hindus are correct, getting 'born again' is the last thing you want to do if your goal is Nirvana.
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20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @secondsonI guess you could look at it that way.
I think you're confusing regeneration with reincarnation.
However, Hindus seek to break the cycle of endless 'rebirths' in order to enter Nirvana. In that sense, they want to avoid being 'born again' into another Earthly incarnation. - Indeed, 'born again' is more apt, in my opinion. to the process of reincarnation than regeneration, as the former is a literal rebirth as opposed to a refresh.
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009You have met humans. They are the worst, and the greatest. I think that is why we have two shoulders.
God gave man free will. Don’t blame God for the way man abused (and continues to abuse) it.
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20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIf you think being born of the Spirit (i.e. receiving the indwelling of God’s Holy Spirit) amounts to only a “refresh,” you have no idea what you’re talking about.
I guess you could look at it that way.
However, Hindus seek to break the cycle of endless 'rebirths' in order to enter Nirvana. In that sense, they want to avoid being 'born again' into another Earthly incarnation. - Indeed, 'born again' is more apt, in my opinion. to the process of reincarnation than regeneration, as the former is a literal rebirth as opposed to a refresh.
[i]Originally posted by @secondson[/He said, hopefully..
Is there a flaw in God?
Not logical.
20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeWell, that's one way to look at it, but I would rather prefer to be born twice and die once than to die again and again and again, following a religious belief system that offers no guarantee of eternal life.
I guess you could look at it that way.
However, Hindus seek to break the cycle of endless 'rebirths' in order to enter Nirvana. In that sense, they want to avoid being 'born again' into another Earthly incarnation. - Indeed, 'born again' is more apt, in my opinion. to the process of reincarnation than regeneration, as the former is a literal rebirth as opposed to a refresh.
Hindus seek, but God finds.
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20 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009If you carry out a 'hard refresh' on your computer you return it to its original perfect state. How is that different from the indwelling God returning the believer to how man was in his original perfect state?
If you think being born of the Spirit (i.e. receiving the indwelling of God’s Holy Spirit) amounts to only a “refresh,” you have no idea what you’re talking about.
'And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.’ (Acts 22:16)