Was Jesus really Lucifer?

Was Jesus really Lucifer?

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Originally posted by Jay Joos
Sorry....i find that ludicrous......🙁
I would like to see why. Sorry, my bad.
Kelly

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Originally posted by Ullr
Lucifer is another example of a pagan god (in this case Roman) being converted, if you will, by Christianity into a fallen angel.

The notion that Lucifer = Jesus is ridiculous when you consider that Lucifer is first of all a Latin name and secondly was part of Roman Mythology and not Judeo/Christian Mythology in the first place.
Did you even read the article?

It was a confluence of factors that led to the misattribution of Lucifer for Satan. The word 'Lucifer'
ought not even appear in any modern translation of the Bible; the term 'morning star' is the preferred
translation.

The article and no one here is suggesting that Satan = Jesus, but that Lucifer Satan. As KellyJay
said, Jesus is the 'second' morning star as far as any sensible reading of Scripture is concerned. To
rely on a mistranslation made a dozen generations after the first Christians and perpetuate it is
absurd.

Nemesio

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Originally posted by Jay Joos
Utter rubbish.... wasted my eyesight on this.......
Can you articulate why you object to the conclusions drawn in the article?

Nemesio

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
well why is it rubbish... give an explanation... maybe it throws out everything you've ever believed and just cant handle it
No explanation needed....its obvious!!!

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Originally posted by KellyJay
I guess you'll never get a 'calling out Jay Joos' by being so vague.
Either you have a reason or you don't, if you think something is so
self evident everyone can see you should be able to identify it rather
quickly, if you cannot you are just blowing smoke and calling it
sunshine.
Kelly
I dont want to be called out....i was being sarcastic..... its obvious why its rubbish and i can handle it!!!

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Originally posted by Nemesio
Can you articulate why you object to the conclusions drawn in the article?

Nemesio
No....dont want to.....

JJ

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Originally posted by eatmybishop
well why is it rubbish... give an explanation... maybe it throws out everything you've ever believed and just cant handle it
I can handle it....no worries there..... its just utter nonsense....does everything have to have a reason????!!!!!

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Originally posted by Jay Joos
I can handle it....no worries there..... its just utter nonsense....does everything have to have a reason????!!!!!
Actually, you can't handle it, so you are electing to merely ignore it and deny it. Such a theological
posture is shameful; an informed and intelligent faith is the only one worth having.

Nemesio

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Originally posted by Nemesio
Actually, you can't handle it, so you are electing to merely ignore it and deny it. Such a theological
posture is shameful; an informed and intelligent faith is the only one worth having.

Nemesio
Blah,blah,blah.....drivel....😴

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Originally posted by Jay Joos
Blah,blah,blah.....drivel....😴
More dismissal attesting to an uninformed, immature faith.

Nemesio

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07 Jun 07

Originally posted by Nemesio
More dismissal attesting to an uninformed, immature faith.

Nemesio
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Originally posted by Jay Joos
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These smiley-face icons are indicative of the amount of thought you
put into your faith.

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Originally posted by Nemesio
These smiley-face icons are indicative of the amount of thought you
put into your faith.
When you become coherent to my faith then i will pay you some attention....until then.....😴

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Originally posted by Jay Joos
When you become coherent to my faith then i will pay you some attention....until then.....😴
Nemesio is probably in thetop three theologian scholars here on RHP. If I was to construct a list of people that have studied their faith academically you would be several hundred places below him. If you took the time to listen and learn you'd gain an awful lot.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Nemesio is probably in thetop three theologian scholars here on RHP. If I was to construct a list of people that have studied their faith academically you would be several hundred places below him. If you took the time to listen and learn you'd gain an awful lot.
Who asked for your opinion Nemesio's little buddy.... i dont care about anyone's academic abilities....until you are coherent with my faith then asleep i will be....