Originally posted by stoker
the point is that it is the tree of knowledge. Adam was alive with god and god is not the god of the dead but life!! With the knowledge came death satans war with god was to temp by deception what god created. That is why you cannot lie in the second life only bear faulse witness.
I read a couple times your post and am still thinking about it. I am not sure I get what you mean totally.
Behind the creation of the universe there is an Life. This Life is also behind the creation of all life. Life was derived from life.
All created life had its origin in an uncreated Life that always was and always will be. The uncreated life is the Triune God - the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. That is not only an uncreated life which had no beginning and has no end. That is also a divine life which is without limitation.
This uncreated life is the source of all created life. The Triune God is the Uncreated and Divine Eternal Life - an uncreated and eternal Person. His life is without limit and impossible for us to fully comprehend.
Though we cannot fully comprehend the unlimited and uncreated life of God we as human beings were created to receive this divine Person into our own beings. God made man in His own image in order to come into man - the Uncreated Life to mingle and unite with the created life.
This mingling and this union looks like Someone in human history. It looks like the God-man Jesus Christ. In Jesus Christ the finite man and the infinite God co-mingle as one. Christ is the created life united and blended with the Uncreated Divine Life which is the eternal life.
What then was the significance of the tree of life? The tree of life represented God to man as food. Food is taken into one's insides. One eats food and assimilates food into oneself.
This tree of life was a symbolic tree which if Adam would partke of it he would take God into himself. God would fulfill His plan then to dispense His uncreated life into the created life.
But what happened?
Instead of man becomming "divinized" man took of the opposing force. Man took in the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And as a result man became Satanified. Man became organically united to Satan.
Adam's taking of the wrong tree did not just make him a transgressor. It made him polluted with a foriegn element. Man's being became polluted with the Satanic element.
This is like a child whom his parent warns not to drink of a certain bottle of poison. If the child disobeys he has two problems. First the child has transgressed the command of his parent. That needs forgiveness. But secondly the child has received poison into his system. This requires that the poison that has internally entered into the child needs to be extracted.
Simply put. Man was created neutral between Satan and God. He was to choose God. He chose Satan and was Satanified instead of Godified.
We know what the Satanifed man looks like. The Godified man looks like the Savior and Lord Jesus Christ.
In other words Jesus Christ is what God intended by the creation of man. He is normal. Christ is the Lord and Savior. But Christ also represents normality.
God intends to fill His creation with the mass producing of His Son Christ in the form of many sons of God - Godified men and women. That is deified humanity to bring man back to the tree of life.
These words are trustworty.