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02 Oct 11

Originally posted by RJHinds
http://www.jimloy.com/physics/gravity.htm

These are the definitions I accept from the Merrian-Webster Dictionary;

Law -a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is
known is invariable under the given conditions

Theory - an unproved assumption

P.S. When you say religion, if you are including Christianity,
Christianity has never been proven wrong like religion.
Christianity is a religion, and has been shown wrong many times.
Like when they said the earth was flat, and when they said it was the centrer of the solar system.
To name but two of many.

Which part of science has different definitions from common usage did you not understand?

You need a scientific dictionary.

The reason such things exist is because science (for the reasons a gave above) uses different
definitions from common use.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Christianity is a religion, and has been shown wrong many times.
Like when they said the earth was flat, and when they said it was the centrer of the solar system.
To name but two of many.

Which part of science has different definitions from common usage did you not understand?

You need a scientific dictionary.

The reason such things exist is because science (for the reasons a gave above) uses different
definitions from common use.
I think you should read real history for no real Christian ever said such a thing.
Some scientist believed it and the RCC.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
What do you think is the probability odds of evolution Vs creation?
Can't both be true?

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Originally posted by Trev33
Can't both be true?
Only if everyone redefines evolution as equal to adaptation and forget
about all plant and animal life descending from ONE common life form.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Only if everyone redefines evolution as equal to adaptation and forget
about all plant and animal life descending from ONE common life form.
Or if creationism where to change, instead of god creating every plant and animal as they are now xe created the basis for them to evolve into what we see now.

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Originally posted by Trev33
Or if creationism where to change, instead of god creating every plant and animal as they are now xe created the basis for them to evolve into what we see now.
That can not happen because God does not change and His word does not
change. The Holy Bible does not say God created every plant and animal,
just every KIND of plant and animal. But they are programmed to
reproduce after there own kind, so it would be impossible for them to
evolve into another kind. They are only able to adapt to environmental
changes as needed. And of course changes due to breeding within kinds.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
That can not happen because God does not change and His word does not
change. The Holy Bible does not say God created every plant and animal,
just every KIND of plant and animal. But they are programmed to
reproduce after there own kind, so it would be impossible for them to
evolve into another kind. They are only able to adapt to environmental
changes as needed. And of course changes due to breeding within kinds.
Do you believe that evolutionists believe that evolution takes place without environmental pressures?

Evolution is not a mystical process - just slow change, infinitessimal adaptations. Where there is no need to change there is no evolution. (Off the top of my head I think crocodiles and sharks are pretty ancient)

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Do you believe that evolutionists believe that evolution takes place without environmental pressures?

Evolution is not a mystical process - just slow change, infinitessimal adaptations. Where there is no need to change there is no evolution. (Off the top of my head I think crocodiles and sharks are pretty ancient)
There is certainly no evidence of evolution today and I doubt there ever
was since it appears contrary to what I believe the Holy Bible says.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
There is certainly no evidence of evolution today and I doubt there ever
was since it appears contrary to what I believe the Holy Bible says.
why dont you answer my question?

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
why dont you answer my question?
His bible told him not to, he isn't allowed independent thought.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
why dont you answer my question?
No.

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The skeptics are saying that just because 9 out 10 people believe in a creator, that doesn't mean anything whatsoever. It's just the equivalent of 9 people raising their hands. Nothing more.

I will accept that retort -- however you are missing something.

a. As mentioned before - mankind has had 7,000 years to put together a belief system. 7,000 years of gathering data and drawing conclusions. Effectively, we have a whole world full of researchers who are also on the front lines of the research as the subjects of it. We've been at this a while and it strikes me as odd, or convenient, that all this time spent searching for answers has not yielded ANYTHING of value.

b. If you really think that the testimony and belief of 9 out of 10 people is utterly meaningless... then you are by default arguing that the entire human race (including the Atheists) is a bunch of bumbling fools. If that is your argument, then touché but you can't have your cake and eat it too. The testimony of the Atheists as well as the research and science they rely upon, is equally tainted and skewed by the bumbling foolishness of the human race.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Hanlon's razor...
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity...

Never attribute to God, that which is adequately explained by stupidity?
If true then God = Malice... seems about right.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
If true then God = Malice... seems about right.
That is not correct logic.

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Originally posted by Trev33
How else are we supposed to explain idiotic blind faith of so many?
I don't understand the question.

What blind faith? Faith isn't blind.

Only fools believe faith is blind.