The Gap Theory

Originally posted by sonship
Trash.
No need to rehash your trash.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Witness Lee's Local Church Cult Thread 159943

Originally posted by sonship
RJHinds cannot be trusted too well, as seen from cheating with chess engines. Lacking in integrity.

An attack upon an opponent in order to discredit their arguement or opinion. Ad hominems are used by immature and/or unintelligent people because they are unable to counter their opponent using logic and intelligence.

Person A: I think we should spend more money on environmental protection.
Person B: You just think that because you’re a stupid tree-hugger.

Person A: It is crucial that we facilitate adequate means to prevent degradation that would jeopardize the project.
Person B: You think that just because you use big words makes you sound smart? Shut up you loser; you don't know what you're talking about.

Anyone else want to discuss the Gap between Genesis 1:1,2 ?

Originally posted by sonship
Anyone else want to discuss the Gap between [b]Genesis 1:1,2 ?[/b]

Originally posted by RJHinds
Witness Lee's Local Church Cult Thread 159943

Originally posted by RJHinds
It should be clear by now that there is NO Gap between Genesis 1:1,2.

After consulting with a Christian friend I know, he sent me this message. Maybe I can get him to participate here in the discussion. Maybe not.

If we look at Genesis 1:1, that was the time of the past before Adam was created and a time when Satan was known as Lucifer before he felled as the original Sin.

So when Lucifer was in charge, and in control of whatever God gave him authority; Lucifer did have authority to some degree in heaven and throughout old universe (probably he was greater than the 24 elders (angels - Rev. 4:4). After Lucifer decided to deny God's Authority; becoming Satan and the existence of Sin; he had access anywhere in the old universe as well as the earth. We don't know how much of the old universe was damaged. We do know that the even the heaven was damaged because Satan became Sin in Heaven where God was.

Those who lived in the Earth, in Genesis 1:1, Death did NOT exist there. But their bodies perished, and they existed in water known as demons.

Only Death existed after Satan was known (by Paul said in Heb. 2:14 ) as his authority. But after the Lord overcame His death; then the Lord Jesus became authority of the Second Death for the Satan and his angels to perish.

There is more but I don't go too long.

Sent from my iPad,

P (copied without permission - identity guarded by sonship)

Gap Theory handles the age of the earth and universe quite well for me.

Originally posted by sonship
After consulting with a Christian friend I know, he sent me this message. Maybe I can get him to participate here in the discussion. Maybe not.

[quote] If we look at Genesis 1:1, that was the time of the past before Adam was created and a time when Satan was known as Lucifer before he felled as the original Sin.

So when Lucifer was in charge, and in ...[text shortened]... o not think I have anything wrong about a pre-Adamic rebellion and divine judgment that occured.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The problem is that you both add imaginary myths to the scripture.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

(2 Timothy 4:3-4 NASB)

The Bible exposes rather than conceals and obscures the enemy of God and man.

Originally posted by sonship
The Bible exposes rather than conceals and obscures the enemy of God and man.

So your god is not omniscient after all? If IT was, then IT would not have any enemies, would it.

I myself consider myself to be an enemy of your god. Of course if that god were real, I would be in deep doo doo.

Fortunately your god is only a man made construct cleverly designed for sure, but only needing human level intelligence to create.

Pretty good ploy to make the god have human attributes. So the writers could include in their attributes 'I am a jealous god'.

Which is one of the most ridiculous statements in the bible, of which there are plenty but that one takes the cake.

Let's see. A GOD, a deity capable of just calling in whole universes and disguising the true age,

convincing people the construct is only 6000 years old, SO worried it would be if all of humanity understood to the core that the world really WAS 4+ billion years old and most of the universe older than that.

Yep, it was so worried about the implications of such a revelation, it goes. "Don't forget, humans, I AM A JEALOUS GOD, so you better worship me because I have this foible, I NEED worshiping".

Come on, where is your critical thinking? You left it behind at church, right?

You are part of an entirely man made religion, just as valid or invalid as ALL other religions on Earth but your conditioning has gone so deep as you cannot EVER think for yourself anymore, having given up the right to independently think to the church, whatever version of Christianity that is.

You can't even see how such religions are holding back the true maturity of mankind because of the implicit promises given by these religions. Islam, promising what, 73 virgins,

if you just bomb that church over there or that twice damned SUUNI mosque over there, since they are not islamic ENOUGH.

Just the kind of philosophy a real god would come up with?