07 Jun 10
Originally posted by black beetleI am always correcting myself on some level-that semi apology/explanation was as much for me as it was for you.
There 's nothing I have to excuse;
I thank you too😵
Back to the nature of this thread, were not the sufis Islamic?
Because they were a pretty inspirational bunch when I started reading about spiritualtiy, alas its been so long that I only remember their essences, very strong creative essences
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by black beetleto black beetle
Since gratitude is an emotion, it has no inherent being
The way one uses the inherenlty non-existent vehicle is merely a product of her/ his own evaluation of the mind alone
Kindly please demonstrate in detail the "indisputable power in the universe and beyond" that even a 10yo child perceives
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in physics, they say that unless a force is acted upon a stationary body, then it will not move.
So since there is lots and lots of movement in our universe, one would conclude that there is a force acting.
so this force is god/power.
when i talk of god, i mean the spiritual power in existance that motivates everything into action, even the action of yourself hitting the keys of your keyboard, to type to me that there is no power.
so the power, is giving you the power, to say there is no power.
buddists are a loony lot, with all their one hand clapping stuff
cheers vishvahetu
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasIts not about religion or fundatmentalism, its about the condition of the heart of man.
If we just could get rid of the fundamentalism of any religion - muslim fundamentalism, jewish fundamentalism and (you guessed right) christian fundamentalism - the world would be a better place to live in.
It's not about religion, it's about fundamentalism.
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelMethinks the Sufis are deeply inspired; Hafiz, Rumi, Kayyam -to name just a few- they all represent a spirit to which I bow although their way is not my way😵
I am always correcting myself on some level-that semi apology/explanation was as much for me as it was for you.
Back to the nature of this thread, were not the sufis Islamic?
Because they were a pretty inspirational bunch when I started reading about spiritualtiy, alas its been so long that I only remember their essences, very strong creative essences
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by whodeyto wodey
For our panel of experts I have a question. Was Christ a fundamentalist or "religious"?
jesus was neither a fundamentalist or religious, he was try to bring to the people, a new consciousness, and that is why the jews at the time, who were the priestly class, got upset, because he didnt honour their ritualistc religious ways, and said, i have come to forfill the law.
any way he got too popular with the people, and the jews conspired with the romans to do away with him, then he was martyd
cheers vishvahetu
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuIn fact there is no such a thing as a "stationary body" neither in microcosmos nor in macrocosmos. Beleiving in the existence of inherently existent stationary "bodies" just because they are appearing to your mind this way, is delusional;
to black beetle
in physics, they say that unless a force is acted upon a stationary body, then it will not move.
So since there is lots and lots of movement in our universe, one would conclude that there is a force acting.
so this force is god/power.
when i talk of god, i mean the spiritual power in existance that motivates everything into act ...[text shortened]... power.
buddists are a loony lot, with all their one hand clapping stuff
cheers vishvahetu
Whatever you are calling "lots and lots of movement in our universe" thay all are the product of a specific cause-effect process that takes place within the observer universe. In no way can you demonstrate that the "force" that is "acting" is indeed an intelligent force the way you attempt to describe, ie as your religion forces you to describe. Anyway, this force is not "god/power"
When you describe "god" as "the power in existence that motivates everything into action", you are doing nothing but showing your inability to understand Karma. The power that is giving me the power to say there is no power is merely the evaluation of my mind, but any person is feel free to keep up roaming with its Boat on its back
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07 Jun 10
Originally posted by black beetleto black beetle
In fact there is no such a thing as a "stationary body" neither in microcosmos nor in macrocosmos. Beleiving in the existence of inherently existent stationary "bodies" just because they are appearing to your mind this way, is delusional;
Whatever you are calling "lots and lots of movement in our universe" thay all are the product of a specific cause ...[text shortened]... nd, but any person is feel free to keep up roaming with its Boat on its back
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you better stop taking those drugs,because your saying nothing about nothing.
anyway, you have just admitted that there is no such thing as a stationary body, great, that means that there is lots of forces acting on that so called stationary body,........and that force is the god force, its intelligent.
cheers vishvahetu
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuThen feel free to prove that gravity amongst else is "the god force, and it is intelligent"
to black beetle
you better stop taking those drugs,because your saying nothing about nothing.
anyway, you have just admitted that there is no such thing as a stationary body, great, that means that there is lots of forces acting on that so called stationary body,........and that force is the god force, its intelligent.
cheers vishvahetu
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07 Jun 10
Originally posted by black beetleto black beetle
Then feel free to prove that gravity amongst else is "the god force, and it is intelligent"
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the god force being the god force,is omniscient,omnipotent, omnipresent and is inside and outside of everything in existance, and is the source of gravity by its supreme spiritual authorization.
nothing exists outside of god, because everthing is a direct and indirect product of gods creative potency.
every atom is oscillating because of this god foce, and each oscillation of each and every different thing, is governed by intelligance, otherwise an apple tree would be an apple tree on Monday, and a orange tree on Tuesday
cheers vishvahetu
07 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuNever mind😵
to black beetle
the god force being the god force,is omniscient,omnipotent, omnipresent and is inside and outside of everything in existance, and is the source of gravity by its supreme spiritual authorization.
nothing exists outside of god, because everthing is a direct and indirect product of gods creative potency.
every atom is oscillating bec ...[text shortened]... n apple tree would be an apple tree on Monday, and a orange tree on Tuesday
cheers vishvahetu