Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
I think the words came only by people (i.e. no “god” involved in any way) and that those people often actually believed (erroneously) that those words actually came from “God” (possibly sometimes from hallucinations or possibly sometimes from superstitious misinterpretations of something they actually heard/saw in real life?) although I am guessing ...[text shortened]... es it was simply made up by less than honest people (possibly sometimes for political reasons?).

Do you have any reason to believe that your opinion is valid?

Would 'I don't know' perhaps be more economical and truthful?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Do you have any reason to believe that your opinion is valid?

Would 'I don't know' perhaps be more economical and truthful?

Show me one who *knows*.
Perhaps we all are not more than simulation in a mighty computer.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Do you have any reason to believe that your opinion is valid?

Would 'I don't know' perhaps be more economical and truthful?

……Do you have any reason to believe that your opinion is valid? ...…

yes;

I first reason that the existential claim that there exists a god has a vanishingly small probability of being true (just like and for the same reason for all such existential claims that have no premise). So, therefore, I assume there is no god, -so, therefore, I deduce from this premise that only people wrote the Bible and no god was involved because if there is no god then, obviously, only people could have made those words -who else?

……Would 'I don't know' perhaps be more economical and truthful?..…

no -because that would be a lie and i don't like telling lies.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Show me one who *knows*.
Perhaps we all are not more than simulation in a mighty computer.

If that were the case, would the scriptures be a built-in part of the program?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
If that were the case, would the scriptures be a built-in part of the program?

yes

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
[b]……Do you have any reason to believe that your opinion is valid? ...…

yes;

I first reason that the existential claim that there exists a god has a vanishingly small probability of being true (just like and for the same reason for all such existential claims that have no premise). So, therefore, I assume there is no god, -so, therefore, I ...[text shortened]... d because if there is no god then, obviously, only people could have made those words -who else?[/b]

That does seem likely. However, that doesn't explain where the words came from or why they came at all.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
yes

Why would the programmer pull such a stunt?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
If that were the case, would the scriptures be a built-in part of the program?

You're asking me, like I *know*? 🙂
Thanks for the confidence.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
That does seem likely. However, that doesn't explain where the words came from or why they came at all.

what do you mean?
the words came from peoples minds and peoples lips -I don’t see how I can elaborate on that for I don’t see what there is to elaborate on.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
You asking me, like I *know*? 🙂
Thanks for the confidence.

Well, perhaps you're a messenger from the programmer -- how could I tell?

Incidentally the idea of the universe being a computer program predates computers.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Why would the programmer pull such a stunt?

Why would a "god" pull such a stunt? (the stunt of creating a universe with scriptures)

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
what do you mean?
the words came from peoples minds and peoples lips -I don’t see how I can elaborate on that for I don’t see what there is to elaborate on.

If that's your best answer, fine ...

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
Why would a "god" pull such a stunt?

That's what I asked ...

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
That's what I asked ...

If that is your question then I would say the answer is no reason we can rationally know.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
If that is your question then I would say the answer is no reason we can rationally know.

Are there other pathways to knowledge than reason?