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One of the most stupendous moments in human history, documented heavily in the New Testament, is the birth of Jesus Christ. How come historians don't even agree on the YEAR, let alone the day, that this event happened?
Originally posted by gaychessplayerWhy do you think it was one of the most stupendous moments in human history ?
One of the most stupendous moments in human history, documented heavily in the New Testament, is the birth of Jesus Christ. How come historians don't even agree on the YEAR, let alone the day, that this event happened?
Originally posted by gaychessplayerHistorians don't even agree that it definitely happened.
One of the most stupendous moments in human history, documented heavily in the New Testament, is the birth of Jesus Christ. How come historians don't even agree on the YEAR, let alone the day, that this event happened?
Originally posted by gaychessplayerI don't know that it is heavily documented in the New Testament.
One of the most stupendous moments in human history, documented heavily in the New Testament, is the birth of Jesus Christ. How come historians don't even agree on the YEAR, let alone the day, that this event happened?
Originally posted by Red NightI don't think that anyone believes that December 25 was the actual day that Christ was born. Perhaps there are but I have not met any including those of faith.
I don't know that it is heavily documented in the New Testament.
You have one story repeated twice.
And the story comes with conflicting clues:
In the reign of Herod which ends in 4 BC
During the Governorship of Quirinius which is 6-12 AD
At the time of the Census, a Galilean named Judas led a revolt that started by raiding the armory at Sep ...[text shortened]... Zealots.
The date of december 25th was just made up, no one believed that was the right day.
Originally posted by Red NightAlso, the Matthew and Luke nativity stories are quite different--I hadn't realized just how contradictory they were until my minister recently pointed it out.
I don't know that it is heavily documented in the New Testament.
You have one story repeated twice.
And the story comes with conflicting clues:
In the reign of Herod which ends in 4 BC
During the Governorship of Quirinius which is 6-12 AD
At the time of the Census, a Galilean named Judas led a revolt that started by raiding the armory at Sep ...[text shortened]... Zealots.
The date of december 25th was just made up, no one believed that was the right day.
Originally posted by Red NightIt wasn't made up. It was chosen in order to make pagan Germans more receptive to Christianity. They probably got it from the proximity to the Winter Solstice, but I'm not sure.
I don't know that it is heavily documented in the New Testament.
You have one story repeated twice.
And the story comes with conflicting clues:
In the reign of Herod which ends in 4 BC
During the Governorship of Quirinius which is 6-12 AD
At the time of the Census, a Galilean named Judas led a revolt that started by raiding the armory at Sep ...[text shortened]... Zealots.
The date of december 25th was just made up, no one believed that was the right day.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThere are a lot of re-birth stories centering around the solstice.
It wasn't made up. It was chosen in order to make pagan Germans more receptive to Christianity. They probably got it from the proximity to the Winter Solstice, but I'm not sure.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAnd the Roman Catholic Church desired to make everything pertaining to Christ palatable to the masses. So they came up with the 25th of December, the old Saturnalia, be the birthday of Jesus.
Because that's when the days start getting longer again and life begins to bloom once more.