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16 May 05
The Rector of my college is a Christian. Many years ago he was in the Army. He had to go to the Angolan war. He was on the back of a military vehicle with one of his friends. He was talking to his friend about God. His friend said that God is a fairy tale. As an atheist he said that he does not believe that God exists...
The next moment they drove over a land mine. They were both thrown off the vehicle. The engine of the vehicle landed on the atheist. Boiling hot oil started leaking over his body. His cries were heard a mile away, "God help me!".
A few seconds ago he had denied the existance of God!
Don't wait for a bomb to explode in your life before you admit that God exists.
16 May 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerThis cry was merely habitualisation to a christian society he grew up around. I often say 'Jesus Christ' out of surprise or anger, it is not a cry to god, it is a habitual action from being part of a mostly christian society, nothing more.
The Rector of my college is a Christian. Many years ago he was in the Army. He had to go to the Angolan war. He was on the back of a military vehicle with one of his friends. He was talking to his friend about God. His friend said that God is a fairy tale. As an atheist he said that he does not believe that God exists...
The next moment they drove over ...[text shortened]... nce of God!
Don't wait for a bomb to explode in your life before you admit that God exists.
16 May 05
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Originally posted by dj2beckerMuch like the bible your story has contradictions. Was it a bomb or a landmine?
The Rector of my college is a Christian. Many years ago he was in the Army. He had to go to the Angolan war. He was on the back of a military vehicle with one of his friends. He was talking to his friend about God. His friend said that Go ...[text shortened]... r a bomb to explode in your life before you admit that God exists.
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Originally posted by StarrmanI don't think his cry was merely a habitual action. If it was I don't think he would have asked the Rector to pray with him and ask for God's forgiveness. I think the statement that says "You speak the truth like a dying man", is rather significant.
This cry was merely habitualisation to a christian society he grew up around. I often say 'Jesus Christ' out of surprise or anger, it is not a cry to god, it is a habitual action from being part of a mostly christian society, nothing more.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerYou did not write this in your original post.
I don't think his cry was merely a habitual action. If it was I don't think he would have asked the Rector to pray with him and ask for God's forgiveness. I think the statement that says "You speak the truth like a dying man", is rather significant.
It's a damn silly statement, dying men speak out of desperation, not truth.
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16 May 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZA bomb is defined as "An explosive weapon detonated by impact, proximity to an object, a timing mechanism, or other means."
Much like the bible your story has contradictions. Was it a bomb or a landmine?
A landmine is a certain type of bomb.
16 May 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerI find you using the suffering of that soldier particularly disgusting, he was suffering in your name , for YOU.
The Rector of my college is a Christian. Many years ago he was in the Army. He had to go to the Angolan war. He was on the back of a military vehicle with one of his friends. He was talking to his friend about God. His friend said that God is a fairy tale. As an atheist he said that he does not believe that God exists...
The next moment they drove over ...[text shortened]... nce of God!
Don't wait for a bomb to explode in your life before you admit that God exists.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. -- John 15:13
Youre a sick person dj
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Originally posted by frogstompdj....
I find you using the suffering of that soldier particularly disgusting, he was suffering in your name , for YOU.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. -- John 15:13
Youre a sick person dj
I agree with frogstomp.......that was a disgusting....comparison of what God is about...these men at war, are there for you for us......and a soldier possibly dying to save you, that example of "See, I told you so" brought you down in estimation I am sure in all Christians eyes
....was truly uncalled for .....
I think you should re think the words you wrote, and the meaning.... and appology should be said, to all the soldiers...many of who die to save us.
There are many people who have been touched by a war, that was the utmost in unchristianity....think before you write, on how much
that statement that story, and what impact it might have on others.
gil
edits ..sheesh!
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16 May 05
Originally posted by frogstompI think you totally misunderstood what I was writing. It was only aimed as a warning for those that poke a finger into God's eye. In fact it was revealing the truth of the words in Galatians 6:7 - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
I find you using the suffering of that soldier particularly disgusting, he was suffering in your name , for YOU.
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. -- John 15:13
Youre a sick person dj
16 May 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerI understand how despicable that post was.
I think you totally misunderstood what I was writing. It was only aimed as a warning for those that poke a finger into God's eye. In fact it was revealing the truth of the words in Galatians 6:7 - Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
16 May 05
Originally posted by dj2beckerI think you are underestimating the power of conditioning.
I don't think his cry was merely a habitual action. If it was I don't think he would have asked the Rector to pray with him and ask for God's forgiveness. I think the statement that says "You speak the truth like a dying man", is rather significant.
Crying 'Oh God' in various circumstances does not imply any admission of god's existence it is in many cases simply habitualisation as starrman points out.
For instance, what do you infer about god when someone says 'oh god' while having an orgasm?
16 May 05
Originally posted by ShallowBlueDepends if a)you are a creationist and b)if you are using contraception
I think you are underestimating the power of conditioning.
Crying 'Oh God' in various circumstances does not imply any admission of god's existence it is in many cases simply habitualisation as starrman points out.
For instance, what do you infer about god when someone says 'oh god' while having an orgasm?