The 6 point test.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I guess you are saying that you have no interest in what I have to say.
Then, why don't you stop challenging Christians to respond to your
questions? Ask your fellow atheist to explain it all to you.

You don't represent ALL Christians, In fact you 'represent' (badly) a tiny minority of crazies
most Christians would dearly love to disown.
So it's entirely possible to be interested in the responses of other Christians without being
interested in your YEC chat-box posts.

Originally posted by googlefudge
You don't represent ALL Christians, In fact you 'represent' (badly) a tiny minority of crazies
most Christians would dearly love to disown.
So it's entirely possible to be interested in the responses of other Christians without being
interested in your YEC chat-box posts.

I know I don't represent all that call themselves Christians. However,
I am still trying to represent Christ in the best way I know how, even
if I make mistakes along the way. I also realize some of you are
prejudice against YEC and wish to silence them. But I was told this
forum is open to all regardless if you agree with them or not. I once
tried to get the evolution topic transferred to the science forum since
most of you believe it is science, but I was unsuccesful.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I know I don't represent all that call themselves Christians. However,
I am still trying to represent Christ in the best way I know how, even
if I make mistakes along the way. I also realize some of you are
prejudice against YEC and wish to silence them. But I was told this
forum is open to all regardless if you agree with them or not. I once
tried ...[text shortened]... ansferred to the science forum since
most of you believe it is science, but I was unsuccesful.

I never said anything about silencing you (or other creationists of any stripe).
However you are only one viewpoint, and I was simply pointing out that someone
saying they were tired of hearing that one viewpoint doesn't mean (as you implied)
that they were not interested in anyone else's.

This doesn't in any way preclude you voicing your opinion.

Free speech allows anyone to say their piece (within reason) but doesn't require that
anyone actually has to listen.


Evolution is a science topic, but since there are those like yourself who claim that we
came about through ID and claim the existence of us as 'proof' of a god then the existence
of a scientific explanation of how we got here is relevant.

Incidentally, while you can use the 'cosmological argument' to claim that our existence must
require a 'designer' who created the universe and all that is in it (with absolutely no basis).
This is at best an argument for the existence of A creator/s.
It provides no proof of the existence of YOUR god, or of the existence of souls or an afterlife.

For god to be of any relevance, it has to either directly impact our materiel world, or take care
of our 'souls' in an afterlife.

Simply claiming that the existence of the universe requires their be a creator in no way
demonstrates that they even know of our existence, let alone care what we do, or look after us
when we die.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I guess you are saying that you have no interest in what I have to say.
Then, why don't you stop challenging Christians to respond to your
questions? Ask your fellow atheist to explain it all to you.

When I direct a question at you in response to one of your statements it would be nice to get an answer and debate a point.

Better still don't make any statements and leave the debating to more knowledgable, more interesting and more polite Christians than yourself.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
When I direct a question at you in response to one of your statements it would be nice to get an answer and debate a point.

Better still don't make any statements and leave the debating to more knowledgable, more interesting and more polite Christians than yourself.

hehe- "debating" with RJ is an oxymoron if I've ever heard one ...

Originally posted by karoly aczel
hehe- "debating" with RJ is an oxymoron if I've ever heard one ...

When I speak the truth there is no point in debating it. Debate want
change the truth of my statements.

P.S. oxymoron -- agree to disagree

Originally posted by RJHinds
When I speak the truth there is no point in debating it. ...

By implication you must only debate a point when you are lying then?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
By implication you must only debate a point when you are lying then?

No, I present the truth and debate against the lie, such as what you say.
Your students are probably dumber when they leave your classroom than
when they enter, if you teach them your logic.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, I present the truth and debate against the lie, such as what you say.
Your students are probably dumber when they leave your classroom than
when they enter, if you teach them your logic.

At least he teaches logic

Originally posted by ChessPraxis
Matthew 7:15-20 (King James Version)

15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18A ...[text shortened]... ruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Yes...........and when the tree brings forth a doctrine of cruelty to animals then the fruit is not good.

Good fruit is the tree that brings forth control of the sense,s (tongue) which allows one to stop slaughtering the creatures that God created and care for them instead.

Mother cow gives us milk and father bull works the fields.

Mother cow and father bull are not meant to be food.........but are meant to help us produce food.

Originally posted by karoly aczel
At least he teaches logic

You don't really think its logic do you? Now, come on, the truth. 😠

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, I present the truth and debate against the lie, such as what you say.
Your students are probably dumber when they leave your classroom than
when they enter, if you teach them your logic.

One day "When I speak the truth there is no point in debating it."

The next "No, I present the truth and debate against the lie."

Are you too stupid to see that your two statements are incompatible?

A simple (your forte) YES or NO