Originally posted by whodey
You say this as if NO homosexual unions have not caused unrest or fragmented society, however, is this the case? I know of many families that have been devastated by loved ones who venture into that life style. In fact, is society not fragmented over the issue as we speak? In addition, I have heard some of my gay friends say how much more promiscuous the g ...[text shortened]... cares what I think or what others think? The one you want to be sure about is what God thinks.
I know of many families that have been devastated by loved ones who venture into that life style.____whodey______
What probably happens is that because homosexuality is not accepted many have tried to pretend they were straight and get married in the normal way only to revert to type and come out courageously thus causing obvious distress to the family involved.
So what caused that problem ? Homosexuality or homophobia?
The fact that you think someone would willingly "venture into that lifestyle" shows how uninformed you are on this. The fact that you have a gay friend who wishes he were straight tells us nothing really. I have no problem accepting the idea that homosexuality might be a sexual dysfunction of some kind that occurs throughout nature. If this is true then there will be some who wish they had not been born this way and others who just embrace it , if so what's your point?
You have still yet to explain why the simple fact of practicing a homosexual relationship is harmful . What you have proved is that anything in and of itself can be harmful if practcied in a certain way. Hetersexuality can be harmful , ambition can be , religion can be , metal can be harmful (if turned into guns) , so can nuclear fusion etc etc , all are subject to misuse or can create harm. But we all know this anyway , metal is not sinful , neither is heterosexuality or homosexuality - but violence , murder , promiscuity , lying , rape etc etc - these are harmful because they make use of the other things and create harm.
It may or may not be true that the gay lifestyle is more promiscuous than the heterosexual lifestyle but there could be all sorts of reasons for this totally unconnected to sexuality. A person who has the courage to come out and resist social norms is more likely to reject social norms around relationships. They are also likely to have experienced deep confusion about their sexuality at some point (due to social rejection) and so might take much longer to establish committed relationships. In any case it's not as if the heterosexaul world is free of promiscuity.
Since ultimately you have no idea what God thinks about intersex individuals or hermaphrodites we can assume that those who have this biological "condition" are free to practice sex with other individuals and it will not be considered an abomination or a sin. The Bible says nothing about it , so unless we can find a reason why we should label it a sin then two individuals like these can just go for it?
Let me paint a scenario , an intersex adult who has a feminised brain but both genitals (so is "camp" and feminine despite having no breasts and male features) but also his/her DNA would show up as female but they would have no ovaries. They meet a similar individual who has male genitalia but their p+++s looks more like a large c++++oris and they have a v++gina of sorts. If they were to practice sex and the way they felt comfortable about it was to touch each other's p+++s 's , would this be an abomination?
My view would be that even though this act would have many similarities with gay sex between two men , it would be Ok with God because he would understand that these people were expressing their love in the best way their bodies allowed them to. Since God has allowed this confused world of sexual orientation / dysfunction to exist in the first place and has not prohibited it in the Bible I would argue that as long as it was not harmful it would be Ok. Would you agree?