Originally posted by ivanhoe

It isn't Rwingo, but you like to assume that don't you.
You never talk about actual political developments in the world. How come ?

I expressed my contempt for Bush prior to election time. I've made a few anti-war posts as well. But I generally think that arguing politics is even a greater waste of time than arguing religion.

Originally posted by rwingett
I expressed my contempt for Bush prior to election time. I've made a few anti-war posts as well. But I generally think that arguing politics is even a greater waste of time than arguing religion.

I guess we can thank you for that ....... I hope you don't mind me reminding you of this statement if necessary ..... 😀

Originally posted by ivanhoe

You assume the US is a religious country with religious doctrines. Get outtahere ! The US is a liberal country with liberal ideas and doctrines. What Bush is doing is NOT exporting his Christian faith but his political liberal (yes liberal) ideas about democracy and human rights. He sells it to the political Right crowd by using religious rhetoric, but that's all.

So invading Iraq was liberal? The death penalty is liberal? Get owdaheah!

Originally posted by rwingett
I expressed my contempt for Bush prior to election time. I've made a few anti-war posts as well. But I generally think that arguing politics is even a greater waste of time than arguing religion.

I do not believe you, other wise you would not be here in this
forum. You do not think it is a waste of time, you define yourself
by arguing religion, without theist to be against you'd have to
find something else to define yourself with.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I do not believe you, other wise you would not be here in this
forum. You do not think it is a waste of time, you define yourself
by arguing religion, without theist to be against you'd have to
find something else to define yourself with.
Kelly

I play solitaire on the computer. That is a waste of time. But I still do it.

I do not define myself by arguing religion. It is you who define me that way. Apparently those are the only posts of mine that you ever read.

Originally posted by rwingett
I play solitaire on the computer. That is a waste of time. But I still do it.

I do not define myself by arguing religion. It is you who define me that way. Apparently those are the only posts of mine that you ever read.

I'm may be mistake, but how do you define atheism, and don't
you claim to be an atheist? I may be wrong, but I'm sure we have
gone over this before.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I'm may be mistake, but how do you define atheism, and don't
you claim to be an atheist? I may be wrong, but I'm sure we have
gone over this before.
Kelly

Yes, I am an atheist. But that only defines what I am not (a theist). It doesn't tell you anything else about me.

Now, I may choose to call myself a secular humanist or a logical positivist to define what I am. While there may be a high degree of correlation between those two items and atheism, they are not synonymous. But even that only gives you a partial picture of who I am. I may further define myself by saying that I'm a liberal Democrat, a baseball fan, an artist, a history buff, etc., etc.

Originally posted by rwingett
Yes, I am an atheist. But that only defines what I am [b]not (a theist). It doesn't tell you anything else about me.

Now, I may choose to call myself a secular humanist or a logical positivist to define what I am. While there may be a high degree of correlation between those two items and atheism, they are not synonymous. But e ...[text shortened]... f by saying that I'm a liberal Democrat, a baseball fan, an artist, a history buff, etc., etc. [/b]

How do you define atheism? That was the first quesiton.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
How do you define atheism? That was the first quesiton.
Kelly

Theism is the belief in the existence of a god or gods. Atheism means to be without theism, or to have no belief in the existence of any gods.

Originally posted by KneverKnight
So invading Iraq was liberal? The death penalty is liberal? Get owdaheah!

So invading Iraq is Christian ? The death penalty is Christian ? Getouttahere .....

Originally posted by rwingett
Theism is the belief in the existence of a god or gods. Atheism means to be without theism, or to have no belief in the existence of any gods.

I could of swore you defined it another way, I went back and only
saw what you just said. My bad, sorry! I did see one thing I agree
with you while I was glancing at your posts though. It isn't spiritual
in nature so I guess I could get dinged for bringing it up here.
"The only rule change I would want to see is the elimination of the
designated hitter in the American League. Pitchers should have to
bat, just as they do in the National League. " I hate the designated
hitter rule too.
Kelly

Originally posted by ivanhoe

So invading Iraq is Christian ? The death penalty is Christian ? Getouttahere .....

You copied me! No fair!
Bush is Christian ...😉