Originally posted by lucifershammer That doesn't make it inevitable.
You are correct if you include infants and children who die before an age of "accountability." However, if I follow you correctly, it may mean that someone may come along that Jesus would not have had to die for.
Originally posted by lucifershammer Eh? How is man's sinning inevitable?
I just explained it.
It is possible for him to choose evil, which is to say, the probability that he sins at each opportunity to do so is greater than 0. (If the probability were not greater than 0, then sinning would be impossible, to which Adam is a counterexample.)
He has an infinite number of opportunities to sin.
Therefore, he must eventually sin.
Originally posted by DoctorScribbles I just explained it.
It is possible for him to choose evil, which is to say, the probability that he sins at each opportunity to do so is greater than 0. (If the probability were not greater than 0, then sinning would be impossible, to which Adam is a counterexample.)
He has an infinite number of opportunities to sin.
Therefore, he must eventually sin.
This is a very elementary deduction.
Except that laws of probability do not apply to matters of choice. He can very well choose not to sin for every single opportunity. Laws of probability, by definition, apply to random events - matters of choice are, by definition, not random.
Originally posted by kirksey957 You are correct if you include infants and children who die before an age of "accountability." However, if I follow you correctly, it may mean that someone may come along that Jesus would not have had to die for.
Originally posted by kirksey957 Absolutely! Maybe I haven't read all of your posts over time, but I surely thought you would subscribe that we all have or will sin.
Very probably, all human adults with reasonable intelligence have sinned or will sin. I don't believe it's inevitable though.
But, even if a person doesn't personally commit sin, Christ's sacrifice would still have been necessary because original sin still prevents him from enjoying the Beatific Vision.