Originally posted by VoidSpirit
as usual, you know squat nil about the bible and biblegod.

Amo 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done [it]?

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].


[quote] Evil came about through nd you as having no clue what the bible says about god or what claims god makes in the bible.

You are interpreting these passages out of context. Both Amos and Isaiah are prophets of God and these words are spoken within two prophecies. The word "evil" does not mean wickedness in theses cases, but rather difficulties, tragedies, and sorrows. Those things are the fruit of doing evil, the fruit of sin. This is the Old Testament way of saying something like, "The wages of sin is death." God has created consequences for your actions. So in reference to these consequences, one can say God created good and bad (evil) consequences.

God created man good in the beginning; but God gave man free choice; and man chose to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So what do you call it when say, an HIV virus changes stripes to get around the immune system?

This comes under the law of cause and effect? HalleluYah!!! Praise the Lord!

Originally posted by RJHinds
I think, if Christ does not come back to save us before 1,000 years, humans will have destroyed themselves by that time.

Luckily what you think has no bearing on reality; past, present or future.

Originally posted by RJHinds
... we must be extra careful we don't cause more harm than good.

DEEP

did you come up with that concept all on your own?

Brilliant ... and so succinct.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You say yourself that evolution only works on living things. A virus is not a living thing.

http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/

"living" is a very loose term and opinions vary whether or not viruses qualify. To the layman viruses are living; they are distinct from say snowflakes 0r rock crystals because they pass on genetic information and evolve.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
"living" is a very loose term and opinions vary whether or not viruses qualify. To the layman viruses are living; they are distinct from say snowflakes 0r rock crystals because they pass on genetic information and evolve.

They are believed to be living to people who are ignorant and don't know any better. And the dishonest claim hat they are living. However, any knowledgeable and truthful person declares that a virus is not a living thing, but needs to attach to a living thing to do anything.

Originally posted by RJHinds
They are believed to be living to people who are ignorant and don't know any better. And the dishonest claim hat they are living. However, any knowledgeable and truthful person declares that a virus is not a living thing, but needs to attach to a living thing to do anything.

By that standard all parasites are non-living!?

How do you class bacteria?
Living or not-living?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
By that standard all parasites are non-living!?

How do you class bacteria?
Living or not-living?

All you had to do is read the definition of virus in the link.
Here it is again:

http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/

Originally posted by RJHinds
All you had to do is read the definition of virus in the link.
Here it is again:

http://www.virology.ws/2004/06/09/are-viruses-living/

Again you do not answer the question!

And I did read the link ... doesnt mean I have to agree with it.

try
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-viruses-alive-2004&page=4

to broaden your horizon

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are interpreting these passages out of context. Both Amos and Isaiah are prophets of God and these words are spoken within two prophecies. The word "evil" does not mean wickedness in theses cases, but rather difficulties, tragedies, and sorrows. Those things are the fruit of doing evil, the fruit of sin. This is the Old Testament way of saying someth ...[text shortened]... od gave man free choice; and man chose to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

i'm interpreting it exactly as it was intended. evil/calamity/suffering.

biblegod causes evil: ra.

1) bad, evil

a) bad, disagreeable, malignant

b) bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)

c) evil, displeasing

d) bad (of its kind - land, water, etc)

e) bad (of value)

f) worse than, worst (comparison)

g) sad, unhappy

h) evil (hurtful)

i) bad, unkind (vicious in disposition)

j) bad, evil, wicked (ethically)
1) in general, of persons, of thoughts

2) deeds, actions

2) evil, distress, misery, injury, calamity

a) evil, distress, adversity

b) evil, injury, wrong

c) evil (ethical)

3) evil, misery, distress, injury

a) evil, misery, distress

b) evil, injury, wrong

c) evil (ethical)


what this means in practical terms according to the bible narrative is that biblegod creates diseases and he confesses full responsibility for it.

your welcome for the free schooling in biblical scripture.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Again you do not answer the question!

And I did read the link ... doesnt mean I have to agree with it.

try
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=are-viruses-alive-2004&page=4

to broaden your horizon

All speculation right now. The consensus right now is that a virus is not a living thing. We shall have to wait to see if they can prove otherwise.

Originally posted by RJHinds
All speculation right now. The consensus right now is that a virus is not a living thing. We shall have to wait to see if they can prove otherwise.

It is not a matter of proof rather than one of definition.

the consensus has to be over the scientific definition of "living".


btw ... who are the "they" you refer to????????

Originally posted by VoidSpirit
i'm interpreting it exactly as it was intended. evil/calamity/suffering.

biblegod causes evil: ra.

1) bad, evil

a) bad, disagreeable, malignant

b) bad, unpleasant, evil (giving pain, unhappiness, misery)

c) evil, displeasing

d) bad (of its kind - land, water, etc)

e) bad (of value)

f) worse than, worst (comparison)

g) sad, unha ...[text shortened]... esses full responsibility for it.

your welcome for the free schooling in biblical scripture.

You don't even believe in BibleGod. So you don't know. I do. 😏 HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!

Originally posted by wolfgang59
It is [b]not a matter of proof rather than one of definition.

the consensus has to be over the scientific definition of "living".


btw ... who are the "they" you refer to????????[/b]

They are the scientific community. Not numbnuts, like yourself.

Originally posted by RJHinds
They are the scientific community. Not numbnuts, like yourself.

Show the scientific community consensus then.
Not just one link to a website.