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Both, since eventually they'll realise neither can win under gods eyes and instead they'll gang up on the atheists.
Originally posted by vistesdQue cativo!
Well, since the creation of the world was in the year 3760 (on either March 29th or September 25th; apparently there is some dispute), no evidence of anything prior to that date (e.g., Sumerian writing, fossil records of pre-history humans—or anything else—geological studies, etc., etc., etc.) counts. There is really no way to date anything prior to 3760 ...[text shortened]... much later attributed to Da Vinci, with an appropriate myth created to support that attribution.
Originally posted by vistesdOh my goodness is vistesd talking smack?
Well, since the creation of the world was in the year 3760 (on either March 29th or September 25th; apparently there is some dispute), no evidence of anything prior to that date (e.g., Sumerian writing, fossil records of pre-history humans—or anything else—geological studies, etc., etc., etc.) counts. There is really no way to date anything prior to 3760 ...[text shortened]... much later attributed to Da Vinci, with an appropriate myth created to support that attribution.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThe ideology of Market-Liberalism and Democracy will win.
Given the current political/quasi-religious machinations, it appears that we are on the verge of a return to the all-out (so-called) holy wars of the Dark Ages.
The last round of battles yielded a an 'X' in the 'Win" column for the 'Christians,' while the hapless Muslims were forced into retreat to lick their collective wounds for a few hundred years.
...[text shortened]... either sides policies, which of the two would you prefer to see 'win' this time around?
Originally posted by ivanhoeSo, in your opinion, the current torrent of jihad threats the pope is receiving (and the bullets his followers are welcoming into their bodies) has nothing to do with a holy war? I didn't say it wasn't politicized: in fact, I said as much from the onset.
The ideology of Market-Liberalism and Democracy will win.
The present conflict has nothing to do with Christian religion and Islam. A bunch of political criminals has hijacked the religion of Islam to fight Western liberal values, liberal freedom and democracy in order to implement their own totalitarian political ideas. They are called the Jihadists.
...[text shortened]... aking you blind for the political reality and for the consequenses of these superficial stances.
Originally posted by rwingettCalling a war for world dominance waged by the forces of capitalist market liberalism and liberal democracy a "crusade" is a bit of an ideological stretch, don't you think ? .... in particular for an ex-socialist, now anarchist, like you.
Oh really? Funny, but they've only been around for about 1% of human history now. And unless we all kill each other in some cataclysmic crusade/jihad then we'll be here for a lot longer.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHYou mean the side of capitalist market liberalism and liberal democracy, right ? The divison Christianity/Islam is a false dichotomy in describing the sides in the present conflict.
I would much rather have the so-called Christian side win, if the last four hundred years of Western civilization are any indication of the policies involved.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIt has been a false dichotomy since it began, actually. The tenets of either faith do not allow for the type of warmongering and political manipulations that have occured to date.
You mean the side of capitalist market liberalism and liberal democracy, right ? The divison Christianity/Islam is a false dichotomy in describing the sides in the present conflict.