1. Standard membermobster kitty
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    bapized catholic, raised nazarene, raised my children fundamental baptists and found myself an agnostic by fifty and in my last years, an atheist.


    there are only two certain things i know.

    creation precedes destruction.
    order precedes chaos.

    all things written on paper by man extolling a religion are just words on paper penned by man, for man and about a subjective experience.
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    @mister-moggy said
    bapized catholic, raised nazarene, raised my children fundamental baptists and found myself an agnostic by fifty and in my last years, an atheist.


    there are only two certain things i know.

    creation precedes destruction.
    order precedes chaos.

    all things written on paper by man extolling a religion are just words on paper penned by man, for man and about a subjective experience.
    Do you see yourself as an implicit atheist or an explicit atheist?
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    i would not know the difference. it is not an intellectual position.

    it just how i strongly feel about things.
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    @mister-moggy said
    i would not know the difference. it is not an intellectual position.

    it just how i strongly feel about things.
    OK. You think the words "implicit" and "explicit" are "intellectual" words, presumably.
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    for me, anything i have to look up in a dictionary becomes something intellectual.
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    @mister-moggy said
    for me, anything i have to look up in a dictionary becomes something intellectual.
    OK.
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    @mister-moggy said
    bapized catholic, raised nazarene, raised my children fundamental baptists and found myself an agnostic by fifty and in my last years, an atheist.


    there are only two certain things i know.

    creation precedes destruction.
    order precedes chaos.

    all things written on paper by man extolling a religion are just words on paper penned by man, for man and about a subjective experience.
    Creation not only precedes destruction, it also follows it. (Just as order emerges out of chaos).

    There is no beginning or end, merely cycles.
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    @mister-moggy said
    bapized catholic, raised nazarene, raised my children fundamental baptists and found myself an agnostic by fifty and in my last years, an atheist.


    there are only two certain things i know.

    creation precedes destruction.
    order precedes chaos.

    all things written on paper by man extolling a religion are just words on paper penned by man, for man and about a subjective experience.
    How about actions are followed by causes?
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Creation not only precedes destruction, it also follows it. (Just as order emerges out of chaos).

    There is no beginning or end, merely cycles.
    BS
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    @kellyjay said
    BS
    Brilliant Sentence?!

    Cheers.
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    @mister-moggy said
    bapized catholic, raised nazarene, raised my children fundamental baptists and found myself an agnostic by fifty and in my last years, an atheist.


    there are only two certain things i know.

    creation precedes destruction.
    order precedes chaos.

    all things written on paper by man extolling a religion are just words on paper penned by man, for man and about a subjective experience.
    Something still needs to precede creation of that you can also be certain.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Creation not only precedes destruction, it also follows it. (Just as order emerges out of chaos).

    There is no beginning or end, merely cycles.
    Order tends to emerge from chaos by means of intelligent intervention.
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    @dj2becker said
    Order tends to emerge from chaos by means of intelligent intervention.
    Or chance.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Brilliant Sentence?!

    Cheers.
    Have you ever seen a perpetual motion machine in life?

    Suggesting the universe is an unending cycle, and not a linear path where it has
    a beginning and ending you are assuming a cycle wouldn't share the same laws
    of a linear path would, because what is still true all things wind down.

    You seem to introducing things with no backing such as, "...no beginning or end...",
    it isn't brilliant a sentence its a simple reminder! Look at the laws of the universe
    that we know this universe subject too.

    "Creation not only precedes destruction, it also follows it. (Just as order emerges out of chaos).

    There is no beginning or end, merely cycles."
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    @dj2becker said
    Order tends to emerge from chaos by means of intelligent intervention.
    Order isn't the giant gotcha, information is. You can have order and never see life
    begin, but once information arrives you see intelligence.
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