Originally posted by robbie carrobie LOL, hate, its now hateful to uphold the Biblical standards yup, why don't we water it down, accuse others of hatred because they are prepared to tell it like it is rather than watering the text down. Entirely typical and rather predictable.
(2 Timothy 4:3-5) For there will be a period of time when they [b]will not put up with the healthful teachi ...[text shortened]... n all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry.[/b]
Besides, there's this:
You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry.
Are YOU doing this? Or would you rather exalt hatred and turn this man away?
Originally posted by e4chris I'm getting more interested in Christianity, and giving it much much more credit then i used too. But homophobia in church really bugs me, i hate how in scotland the churches campaign against homosexuality. Its glorified school bullying, pathetic. I've read one of the bits in the bible that says homosexuality is wrong, and the bit two pages later where it t ...[text shortened]... and i never hear any christian complain about it. but picking on gay people seems to be fine.
Yes, the homophobia exhibited by many "Christians" is nothing more than school bullying and is pathetic. Their beliefs are steeped in hypocrisy.
I'm sure you've figured out that Robbie Carrobie is one of this forums most vocal homophobes and hypocrites.
If you aren't already aware of it, because the Bible is littered with conflicting and contrary teachings, there are many different denominations with widely varying beliefs.
I suggest that you find a denomination or church that supports the following:
1) gay rights
2) gay clergy
3) gay marriage
4) the belief that homosexuality is not a sin
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne Yes, the homophobia exhibited by many "Christians" is nothing more than school bullying that and is pathetic. Their beliefs are steeped in hypocrisy.
I'm sure you've figured out that Robbie Carrobie robbie is one of this forums most vocal homophobes and hypocrites.
If you aren't already aware of it, because the Bible is littered with conflicting an ...[text shortened]... /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominational_positions_on_homosexuality [/quote]
Please take note that The Episcopal Church is listed in both.
Originally posted by Suzianne Yes, but your whole comment, spread over two posts as it was, was:
Just be thankful you are not in a cult. ...or a gay.
You might as well have said:
WTF? Why, are YOU gay?
Both tongue-in-cheek and pointing at the "cult" threads currently underway and also that it is blatantly obvious from the OP that the poster is gay and trying to rationalise their homosexuality with an apparent interest in Christianity by constructing a context of "bullying" and "homophobia" with which to blame a church which condemns the practice. I thought it amusing.
Edit: just seen your edit...yes, I could have said that but I tried to be more subtle.
Originally posted by divegeester Both tongue-in-cheek and pointing at the "cult" threads currently underway and also that it is blatantly obvious from the OP that the poster is gay and trying to rationalise their homosexuality with an apparent interest in Christianity by constructing a context of "bullying" and "homophobia" with which to blame a church which condemns the practice. I th ...[text shortened]...
Edit: just seen your edit...yes, I could have said that but I tried to be more subtle.
It is a subject many are sensitive to.
I know there is a market for "cutting-edge" humor about such topics, but it is a thin line, much like Tarentino getting away with including multiple references to "the N-word" in his movies.
BTW, people who happen to be homosexual are as entitled to seek out God as anybody.
Originally posted by divegeester Both tongue-in-cheek and pointing at the "cult" threads currently underway and also that it is blatantly obvious from the OP that the poster is gay and trying to rationalise their homosexuality with an apparent interest in Christianity by constructing a context of "bullying" and "homophobia" with which to blame a church which condemns the practice. I th ...[text shortened]...
Edit: just seen your edit...yes, I could have said that but I tried to be more subtle.
The "context of 'bullying' and 'homophobia'" didn't need to be "constructed" since it clearly exists within Christianity. Seems like only a homophobe would find it "amusing".
Originally posted by Suzianne I know there is a market for "cutting-edge" humor about such topics, but it is a thin line, much like Tarentino getting away with including multiple references to "the N-word" in his movies.
Are you saying that me writing "just the thankful you are not in a cult...or gay" is equivalent to using the "N" word?
Originally posted by Suzianne BTW, people who happen to be homosexual are as entitled to seek out God as anybody.
Any one can seek out god of course, but that has nothing to with homosexuality being condemned in both the old and new testaments which is why large segments of Christendom also do.
Originally posted by divegeester Are you saying that me writing "just the thankful you are not in a cult...or gay" is equivalent to using the "N" word?
Just how do you think your saying "Just be thankful you are...not gay" should be taken? Can it be taken as other than a homophobic comment?
Originally posted by divegeester Any one can seek out god of course, but that has nothing to with homosexuality being condemned in both the old and new testaments which is why large segments of Christendom also do.
Those "large segments of Christendom" who do not similarly condemn the wearing of garments made of more than one type of fiber or the eating of shellfish, who do not believe that women should be silent in the church, etc. show themselves to be the hypocrites that they are.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne Just how do you think your saying "Just be thankful you are...not gay" should be taken? Can it be taken as other than a homophobic comment?
Lewes bonfire, and gays in the church
03 Feb '13 17:091 edit
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