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Originally posted by KellyJayYour inability to answer, whether you like it or not, is part of the discourse.
Originally posted by JS357
Insanity — a perfectly rational adjustment to an insane world.
- R.D. Laing, as quoted in Wisdom for the Soul.
I am suggesting that eternal existence in a merciless "lake of fire" would be an insane world, and anyone who does not get that, isn't comprehending it fully. However, anyone who does comprehend it fully and believes it happens to people and could ...[text shortened]... dea doesn't drive you nuts, you either don't comprehend it fully or you don't really believe it.
I am suggesting that eternal existence in a merciless "lake of fire" would be an insane world, and anyone who does not get that, isn't comprehending it fully.
However, anyone who does comprehend it fully and believes it happens to people and could happen to him or her, is rationally justified to have an insane reaction of some kind; paranoia on a cosmic scale comes to mind. It's a sort of Catch-22: if the idea doesn't drive you nuts, you either don't comprehend it fully or you don't really believe it.
:Originally posted by sonshipYour questions are somewhat baffling.I am suggesting that eternal existence in a merciless "lake of fire" would be an insane world, and anyone who does not get that, isn't comprehending it fully.
You have a point.
But let me ask you just for argument's sake;
Do you think that not getting that it was God ... God ... in a man suffering the torture, torment of cruci and refused [b] forever repentence ?
Would you trust your future to follow such a one ?[/b]
Originally posted by JS357
Your questions are somewhat baffling.
#1 parses to: "Not getting it...(not getting that it was God etc.) would be insane." Why would not getting it be insane? It could be just ignorance of that supposed fact?
#2 Have I given similar depth of attention to the prospect that... Well, I don't know if my depth of perception has been similar WRT those to thing ...[text shortened]... a leader who decides them.
I'm a bit uncertain of what you are intending to get across to me.
Your questions are somewhat baffling.
Your questions are somewhat baffling.
#4 and 5 I haven't given much thought to whether there is a greatest possible offense that could not be exceeded. Are you referring to rejection of God being the greatest possible offense which would justify the eternal merciless lake of fire?
" ... that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life."
#6 Would I want a leader, period?
What would I do with a "leader" in this regard? I am ultimately responsible for my actions whether I decide them myself or choose a leader who decides them.
I'm a bit uncertain of what you are intending to get across to me.
"Giving thanks to the Father, who has ... delivered us out of the authority of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love.
In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins; ..." (Colossians 1:12a.13,14a)
Originally posted by sonshipOK thanks I will mull this over.
Your questions are somewhat baffling.
Your questions are somewhat baffling.
#4 and 5 I haven't given much thought to whether there is a greatest possible offense that could not be exceeded. Are you referring to rejection of God being the greatest possible offense which would justify the eternal merciless lake of fire?
Yes.
I ...[text shortened]... uthority to do so easily. But He needs out permission because He will not usurp our human will.