Originally posted by FreakyKBHThere isn't any, at least not in the sense of crossing a finish line and winning a trophy handed to you by some official.
If no one is excluded, how is the final conclusion decided, i.e., what is the factor which determines a person has arrived at the intended (?) state?
Originally posted by HalitoseYou have to try it for yourself. I'm sure you've read at least one thread on Buddhism in the last few months. Is your memory a sieve?
...and this of the renowned last-ditch defense?
--Excuse the rancour, but you ought to know that paradox is central to Buddhist thought. It is not a question of decoder rings but practice.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageIs your memory a sieve?
You have to try it for yourself. I'm sure you've read at least one thread on Buddhism in the last few months. Is your memory a sieve?
Keeping in mind my self-proclaimed title - is this a trick question?
You have to try it for yourself.
I have no problem with this - but what is the difference between some of the fundies (TM) on the site claiming the need to be spirit-filled to understand the Bible, and you claiming the need to "Buddhism-filled" to understand Nirvana?
--Excuse the rancour, but you ought to know that paradox is central to Buddhist thought. It is not a question of decoder rings but practice.
Sure - practice being the MDR, TM.
P.S. No offence, I just enjoy drawing parallels - a risky business I'm sure.
Originally posted by HalitoseThe difference is that with Nirvana, there's nothing to understand.
I have no problem with this - but what is the difference between some of the fundies (TM) on the site claiming the need to be spirit-filled to understand the Bible, and you claiming the need to "Buddhism-filled" to understand Nirvana?
hOriginally posted by HalitoseWho said "Buddhism-filled"?
[b]Is your memory a sieve?
Keeping in mind my self-proclaimed title - is this a trick question?
You have to try it for yourself.
I have no problem with this - but what is the difference between some of the fundies (TM) on the site claiming the need to be spirit-filled to understand the Bible, and you claiming the need to "Buddhism-filled" to understand Nirvana?[/b]
Rather: "If you meet the Budda on the road, kill him."
Originally posted by HalitoseThe "Christians" here want everything tied up in a neat little package with a big bow and a label saying "Just for You and the Other 1% of the Special People". Plus they want to pretend that only they can understand what is in the package, even though it's transparent for all to see.
Is this another variation of the "Magic Decoder Ring (MDR, TM)"?
Other spiritual belief systems acknowledge that there may be things that Man, at least in his present state, cannot understand though perhaps in other stages of being you will be able to understand them . That is entirely different and far more rational than a belief that you personally have special, secret knowledge because of intervention by an invisible entity that 99% of the world doesn't experience. The first is a recognization of Man's limited nature, the second is hubris and arrogance.