Originally posted by robbie carrobie
who states that the universe is infinitely old, not the Bible, it clearly states that it had a
beginning? You have heard this idea before, and i thought it was borne of my own
originality, is there nothing new under the sun?

All I am saying is that your statement that "its asserted in scripture that, 1. universe had an ex nihilo beginning " is not remarkable at all. Sorry about that.

Originally posted by KellyJay
LOL, yes I do, but the ones screaming about truth and keeping other thoughts out
of the public are not the religious this time around.
Kelly

Teachable moment, if not for you, for others:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
what is the basic design? basic design of what? and how much of a variation from the basic design is it allowed?

Very little I'd say, like anything very complex you tweak it enough you'll break it,
but very little is still something and small change can have big results.
Kelly