Jesus and the Father

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Originally posted by @eladar
What of Jesus' existance in the time of the OT? Was he in existence? Was he in total agreement with God?
Jesus did not exist in the OT.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Jesus did not exist in the OT.
John

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 [a]He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [b]comprehend it.

The Witness John
6 There [c]came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 [d]He came [e]as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. 8 [f]He was not the Light, but he came to testify about the Light.

9 There was the true Light [g]which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His [h]own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were [i]born, not of [j]blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

The Word Made Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh, and [k]dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of [l]the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John *testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me [m]has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.’” 16 For of His fullness [n]we have all received, and [o]grace upon grace. 17 For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth [p]were realized through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.


If Jesus was there from the beginning , where did he go?

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Originally posted by @eladar
John

[b]being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [b]comprehend it.

The Witness John
6 There [c]came a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 [d]He came [e]as a witness, to testify about th ...[text shortened]... he Father, He has explained Him.


If Jesus was there from the beginning , where did he go?[/b]
How does this prove that Jesus is God?

It doesn't.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
How does this prove that Jesus is God?

It doesn't.
The Word is Jesus. Go back and read the beginning of the Bible quote again. I fixed it.

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Originally posted by @eladar
The Word is Jesus. Go back and read the beginning of the Bible quote again. I fixed it.
It doesn't make sense that Jesus is God.

Besides, the Bible is made up from ancient times.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
It doesn't make sense that Jesus is God.

Besides, the Bible is made up from ancient times.
The blatantly obvious problem you have when discussing the bible chaney3, is that you don't know it.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
It doesn't make sense that Jesus is God.

Besides, the Bible is made up from ancient times.
Of course if you believe the Bible is made up you should totally ignore it and go on with your life without it.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
The blatantly obvious problem you have when discussing the bible chaney3, is that you don't know it.
Yes I do.

It was taken from previous cultures.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Yes I do.

It was taken from previous cultures.
You are well known on here for calling the bible man-made BS, despite claiming in your first ever post at rhp that you've always been a Christian. This is duplicity is nothing new and no one is impressed. Do you have something of substance to offer or discuss?

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Originally posted by @divegeester
You are well known on here for calling the bible man-made BS, despite claIming in your first ever post at rhp that you've always been a Christian. This is duplicity is nothing new and no one is impressed. Do you have something of substance to offer or discuss?
Yes.

The Bible is plagiarism.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Yes.

The Bible is plagiarism.
Presumably this revelation is something you somehow experienced between the period of 'always being a Christian" and 'never being a Christian', correct?

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Presumably this revelation something you somehow experienced between the period of 'always being a Christian" and 'never being a Christian', correct?
You have been a Christian for over 30 years. And.....you are a horrible person.

Being a Christian is over rated.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
You have been a Christian for over 30 years. And.....you are a horrible person.

Being a Christian is over rated.
Enjoy you Friday lash chaney3.

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Originally posted by @divegeester
Enjoy you Friday lash chaney3.
Your 'humility thread' is over.

You are an a-hole, but won't admit it.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Your 'humility thread' is over.

You are an a-hole, but won't admit it.
What is your opinion of Colossians 1:15-17 in relation to the OP?