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I'm in intereseted in the differences between an athiests idea of intelligence and a theists idea of intelligence. Anyone?
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Ideally there shouldn't be a difference, I agree.
But is something like 'having faith in Jesus' considered to be a form of intelligence ? (for example)
Originally posted by karoly aczelNo, I don't think there is any difference.
Ideally there shouldn't be a difference, I agree.
But is something like 'having faith in Jesus' considered to be a form of intelligence ? (for example)
Originally posted by karoly aczelSome similar ideas from an atheist's perspecrive are explored here:
I'm in intereseted in the differences between an athiests idea of intelligence and a theists idea of intelligence. Anyone?
Originally posted by PalynkaWell, as Fabian pointed out, it can get pretty hard trying to define intelligence.
What definition of intelligence are you thinking of?
Originally posted by jaywillSo having faith in JC would be an intelligent thing to do,right?
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I'm in intereseted in the differences between an athiests idea of intelligence and a theists idea of intelligence. Anyone?
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But is something like 'having faith in Jesus' considered to be a form of intelligence ? (for example)
=== ...[text shortened]... not offering absolute proof, do signal that the believer is indeed on the right track.
Originally posted by karoly aczel============================
So having faith in JC would be an intelligent thing to do,right?
Would you be of the persuaion that 'intellectual posturings' can hamper our relationship with the divine and therefore considered counter-intuitive/unintelligent?
Originally posted by karoly aczelYes, indeed there is. There is a very popular, although dated, Catholic apologetic book entitled Theology is sanity. The premise behind this title, explained in the forward, is that sanity is, essentially, a state in which the mind perceives and interprets reality correctly, whereas insanity is the state in which the mind rejects or misunderstands reality. Hence, as his argument went, sanity is to think with the Church because the Church is the infallible teacher of reality. Obviously this is not intended as a valid diagnostic critedia for mental disorder and I suspect that the motivation behind the title is mostly rhetorical -- granted as well that intelligence and sanity are separate ideas but nonetheless this example shows at least some theists do pathologise atheism as a mental handicap (and undoubtedly vice versa, consider The God Delusion). To be intelligent has to mean, in some degree, to think in the same way as the person defining intelligence.
I'm in intereseted in the differences between an athiests idea of intelligence and a theists idea of intelligence. Anyone?
Originally posted by jaywill"evil reasoning" procceding from the heart. Nasty stuff,eh?
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So having faith in JC would be an intelligent thing to do,right?
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It was the most intelligent thing I ever did.
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Would you be of the persuaion that 'intellectual posturings' can hamper our relationship with the divine and therefore conside ...[text shortened]... touching of God. The reasoning helps or hinders us to make the decision to do so.
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"evil reasoning" procceding from the heart. Nasty stuff,eh?
Anyway, I think if you look deep in your heart, with a patient, sane mind, your heart can be the best guide for navigating around in this world.
I will get back to your and Conrau's post in more detail later, cheers🙂
Originally posted by Conrau KThat's crazy.
Yes, indeed there is. There is a very popular, although dated, Catholic apologetic book entitled Theology is sanity. The premise behind this title, explained in the forward, is that sanity is, essentially, a state in which the mind perceives and interprets reality correctly, whereas insanity is the state in which the mind rejects or misunderstands re ...[text shortened]... f the moment, everyone on this forum is likely to accuse their opponent of some mental defect.
Originally posted by Conrau K"Yes, indeed there is."
Yes, indeed there is. There is a very popular, although dated, Catholic apologetic book entitled Theology is sanity. The premise behind this title, explained in the forward, is that sanity is, essentially, a state in which the mind perceives and interprets reality correctly, whereas insanity is the state in which the mind rejects or misunderstands re f the moment, everyone on this forum is likely to accuse their opponent of some mental defect.