Originally posted by stockenSo, by producing cures and vaccines against diseases scientists may be actively thwarting the will of God. Damn scientists!
God is the cause of all diseases, and he always has a very good reason
for them. Reasons that makes perfect sense in accordance with his new
testament teachings. We just can't see it with our limited wisdom. We must
trust Him.
Originally posted by adam warlockIndeed... I have often wondered about this, and I find it a bit scary. If it's only their faith which makes them want to help others and which keeps them from doing bad stuff, what if they'd lose their faith? I suspect that in most cases it's just talk, though, and that if they'd lose their faith, they'd find that they aren't suddenly compelled to go and kill someone.
why do some believers that just because some people don't believe they have to act crazy?
Originally posted by TheSkipperIndeed. We shouldn't interfere with natural processes at all because
So, by producing cures and vaccines against diseases scientists may be actively thwarting the will of God. Damn scientists!
everything is made just the way God wants it. Of course, that would include
scientists. Erm... I mean... just trust Him, will you?
Originally posted by NordlysThen again, perhaps this is the very reason a lot of them decided to go with
Indeed... I have often wondered about this, and I find it a bit scary. If it's only their faith which makes them want to help others and which keeps them from doing bad stuff, what if they'd lose their faith? I suspect that in most cases it's just talk, though, and that if they'd lose their faith, they'd find that they aren't suddenly compelled to go and kill someone.
the faith; because they know themselves well enough to realise they can't
behave otherwise. Maybe they're like little children who needs constant
supervision or something. Of course, I'm sure God's got it all covered
though, so I wouldn't worry about it. He's a wise bloke, God.
Tell me, have you contracted Diptheria, measles, mumps, smallpox, tetnus, scarlet fever, or polio recently. Have an ear infection as a kid? And you're still alive?! Do you expect to live beyond the age of 20?
How do you get around? Ever used a plane, helicopter, ship, bus, or car. Or do you still rely on a horse and maybe a rowboat?
When you're riding your horse to work in the morning, or maybe to the church to mourn the death of yet another child, or out of town to avoid the latest plauge outbreak, do you cross any good sized bridges? Are the roads all cobblestone?
Do you wash all your clothes by hand?
When you plow the field in your small subsistance farm which can't even turn a profit and has to be moved every few years because God doesn't favor that soil anymore, are you plowing with a rock on a stick tied to your horse?
Have you ever enjoyed little conviences like listening to non-live music, talking on the telephone instead of hiring a runner, being able to stay up after sunset and work without candles, feeling sure your water is safe to drink, or having your house insulated in winter, electricity, playing chess quickly and easily with people far away?
The list goes on....
But what has science done for me lately you say.
Internet, cell phones, DNA fingerprinting and other CSI techniques, computers, batteries, TV, radio, hearing aides, transistors and electronics, there are new advances in medicine constantly, nanotech is starting to come into play, and perhaps most importantly, we are increasingly more able to appreciate the world around us and lead fufilling lives by all these minor conviences and time/labor saving devices.
I'd go so far as to say that no part of your life remains untouched by science. Even your faith has to deal with questions raised by science and apparently that makes you bitter and willfully ignorant.
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnow* Looking left and right *
Tell me, have you contracted Diptheria, measles, mumps, smallpox, tetnus, scarlet fever, or polio recently. Have an ear infection as a kid? And you're still alive?! Do you expect to live beyond the age of 20?
How do you get around? Ever used a plane, helicopter, ship, bus, or car. Or do you still rely on a horse and maybe a rowboat?
When yo ...[text shortened]... th questions raised by science and apparently that makes you bitter and willfully ignorant.
Uhm, who exactly are you talking with? 😕
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowFunnily enough, science has even helped Christians to spread Christianity more easily and reach people they otherwise wouldn't have been able to reach.
Even your faith has to deal with questions raised by science and apparently that makes you bitter and willfully ignorant.
I don't understand that concept of "science vs Christianity" josephw seems to promote. Science is not a religion, and religion is not scientific. Most Christians don't have a problem with science. Many scientists are religious.
Originally posted by TheSkipperCan't you see, science has proved the bible is false. There is no God, only science. We must trust the scientists to tell us everything.
So, by producing cures and vaccines against diseases scientists may be actively thwarting the will of God. Damn scientists!
Originally posted by NordlysThere is no such thing as faith. It's an illusion. There's only science.
Indeed... I have often wondered about this, and I find it a bit scary. If it's only their faith which makes them want to help others and which keeps them from doing bad stuff, what if they'd lose their faith? I suspect that in most cases it's just talk, though, and that if they'd lose their faith, they'd find that they aren't suddenly compelled to go and kill someone.
Originally posted by stockenScience and the government is all we need. They will show us the way.
Then again, perhaps this is the very reason a lot of them decided to go with
the faith; because they know themselves well enough to realise they can't
behave otherwise. Maybe they're like little children who needs constant
supervision or something. Of course, I'm sure God's got it all covered
though, so I wouldn't worry about it. He's a wise bloke, God.