"Viewing Hitler as acting completely outside of God's plan is to suggest that God was powerless to stop the Holocaust, a position quite unacceptable to any religious Jew or Christian."
Originally posted by AThousandYoung "Viewing Hitler as acting completely outside of God's plan is to suggest that God was powerless to stop the Holocaust, a position quite unacceptable to any religious Jew or Christian."
Was Hitler and the Third Reich part of God's plan?
"Viewing Hitler as acting completely outside of God's plan is to suggest that God was powerless to stop the Holocaust, a position quite unacceptable to any religious Jew or Christian."
Is that a strict entailment? I can think of many instances in which something is outside my plan, but against which I have power to invervene.
Originally posted by Conrau K [b]"Viewing Hitler as acting completely outside of God's plan is to suggest that God was powerless to stop the Holocaust, a position quite unacceptable to any religious Jew or Christian."
Is that a strict entailment? I can think of many instances in which something is outside my plan, but against which I have power to invervene.[/b]
You are right that it doesn't follow that it is necessarily his plan, but it does bring up the question of why does an omniscient caring and moral god stand back while that kind of thing happens.
Originally posted by Conrau K [b]"Viewing Hitler as acting completely outside of God's plan is to suggest that God was powerless to stop the Holocaust, a position quite unacceptable to any religious Jew or Christian."
Is that a strict entailment? I can think of many instances in which something is outside my plan, but against which I have power to invervene.[/b]
Originally posted by AThousandYoung "Viewing Hitler as acting completely outside of God's plan is to suggest that God was powerless to stop the Holocaust, a position quite unacceptable to any religious Jew or Christian."
Originally posted by Sushill Who can believe in a god that stood by and did nothing when 6 million people were exterminated?
I DO i do. tell me death comes to us. so the method of death, is it so revalent. the first WW SAW MANY die, and thier bodys eaten by rats, on both sides, is that more or less horrific. but i fear him who can harm me after death, more than man who once im dead can not harm me, whatever they do to the body.
Sorry, but I fail to see it. According to the properties attributed to God, common sense would rather rule in the opposite direction. How can God be a 3 / 4 omni god and allow it to happen??
Originally posted by Conrau K What has omniscience to do with this topic?
The rules which apply to what you are able to do do not apply to God by very definition. An omniscient God, for example, would be quite unable to "ignore" something - because that would imply he has imperfect knowledge of which, which would contradict omniscience.