19 Aug 09
Originally posted by galveston75What do you think the population would now be if that were the case?
Lets see if some of us can agree on one thing?
Adam & Eve were created in the beginning in the Garden of Eden and would possibly still be alive today if they hadn't eaten of the tree of good and bad? Make sence?
19 Aug 09
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Originally posted by galveston75Yes, they and everyone after that didn't sin would all still be alive.
Lets see if some of us can agree on one thing?
Adam & Eve were created in the beginning in the Garden of Eden and would possibly still be alive today if they hadn't eaten of the tree of good and bad? Make sence?
It was not the tree of good and bad though.
Kelly
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by joe beyserIf you remember that the Garden of Eden was probably a relitively small area. God did tell them to subdue the rest of the earth in Gen 1:28. Subdue in my dictionary means to tame. The Bible says that once Adam & Eve were thrown out of the Garden that they now had to toil in thornes and ground that did not produce much.
What do you think the population would now be if that were the case?
So all of this shows that God's original plan was for the earth to someday produce no doubt large amounts of food to feed much more then what it produces today. Think that if all the desert and frozen areas of this planet produced food and the millions or billions of people it would have fed.
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by galveston75This question is much the same as to ask:
Lets see if some of us can agree on one thing?
Adam & Eve were created in the beginning in the Garden of Eden and would possibly still be alive today if they hadn't eaten of the tree of good and bad? Make sence?
If Gollum hadn't found the ring, would Bilbo be a happier man?
The bible and the ring triology should be taken with equal seriosity.
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by galveston75I find it amazing that people can take the garden of Eden story so literally but throw out the idea of a God that can foresee the future.
So all of this shows that God's original plan was for the earth to someday produce no doubt large amounts of food to feed much more then what it produces today.
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by twhiteheadnot only is it not amazing Whitey, but in the account itself, it is self evident that God made preparation for the future in preparing 'a seed', that would negate the rebellious stance taken by the perpetrators. thus God, being 'outside' of time is perfectly capable of seeing into the future, why you say that some do not accept this, i do not know. if you are implying that he could have foresaw the consequences of their action and stopped it, then this is no argument either, for he (God) is exemplary in his adherence to his own principles and this would not have solved any of the universal issues that were raised either.
I find it amazing that people can take the garden of Eden story so literally but throw out the idea of a God that can foresee the future.
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by galveston75yes but its the tree of knowledge tempted to be like god with good and bad/evil.
Lets see if some of us can agree on one thing?
Adam & Eve were created in the beginning in the Garden of Eden and would possibly still be alive today if they hadn't eaten of the tree of good and bad? Make sence?
and to answer another point they would be the only 2 as child birth was given as they would die on earth, the rest is history as they say
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by galveston75is it your contention that all humans are descended from Adam and Eve?
Lets see if some of us can agree on one thing?
Adam & Eve were created in the beginning in the Garden of Eden and would possibly still be alive today if they hadn't eaten of the tree of good and bad? Make sence?
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you look at the phrase I quoted when I posted you will see the words "God's original plan". He then went on to describe a whole alternative future that never happened and there was some discussion around this with the apparent assumption that God went to the trouble of making plans and putting in place all sorts of things in preparation for a future that he (according to you) knew would never take place. For example, later on galveston75 suggests that desert and frozen areas in this alternative future that never happened would have produces copious amounts of food.
thus God, being 'outside' of time is perfectly capable of seeing into the future, why you say that some do not accept this, i do not know.