Five Kinds of Forgiveness

Five Kinds of Forgiveness

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Cape Town

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Does being turned into a pillar of salt fall under this category?

Did Lot's wife have an opportunity to avail herself of any of the five types of forgiveness between her sin of disobedience and her penal transformation into sodium chloride?
No one can honestly answer that question. What happened to her soul after physical death (I assume death occured during saltification) is not mentioned.
It is entirely possible that all deaths are a result of God deciding that he now knows enough about that person to properly Judge them and thus no further testing (suffering) on earth is required and so he takes them (either to heaven or hell).

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Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
Q: Is being turned into a pillar of salt a soluble problem?

A: Yes, given enough holy water.
ouch ouch ouch ouch!!!

Ursulakantor

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Originally posted by jaywill
Symphonic and spiritual songs of various styles.
Have you abandoned the use of crap poetry yet?

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Originally posted by jaywill
There are five consequences of sinning in the Bible. Correspondingly there are five kinds of forgiveness.

Unless readers are aware of these differences they will be confused.
The consequence of sin determines the kind of forgiveness involved.

First here are the five consquences of sin in the Bible:

1.) Eternal perdition

2.) Separation fro ...[text shortened]... borate on the five kinds of forgiveness related to these five kinds of consequences of sin.
When a child is mauled by a bear for making childish insults, is that an instance of a Category 4 consequence?

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Originally posted by Nemesio
Have you abandoned the use of crap poetry yet?
Are you still showing off your knowledge of rigid and formal rules to impress us that you know anything about how to make beautiful poetry?

j

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
When a child is mauled by a bear for making childish insults, is that an instance of a Category 4 consequence?
Some naughty childen are probably not as much of a problem as some self pitying adult who bitterly blames his failed life on God.

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Originally posted by jaywill
Some naughty childen are probably not as much of a problem as some self pitying adult who bitterly blames his failed life on God.
You radiate love.

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Originally posted by jaywill
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Must suck to have so much utter nonsense cluttering up your brain all the time, jaywill.
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This one particular subject does not fill my mind all the time. Like any other serious student of a particulkar large work when the need arises, I concentrate on a particular subjec ...[text shortened]... save your sympathy. Now if that is all you have to say, I will get back to my discussion.[/b]
I thought the need arose for a concentration on this subject.

Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.

For instance I am a composer

Do you have anything I could play on my guitar?

j

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Originally posted by LemonJello
[b]I thought the need arose for a concentration on this subject.

Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.

For instance I am a composer

Do you have anything I could play on my guitar?[/b]
I just completed a piece for either guitar and flute or harp and flute.

Do you have Finale music writing software installed on your computer ?

j

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Originally posted by LemonJello
[b]I thought the need arose for a concentration on this subject.

Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.

For instance I am a composer

Do you have anything I could play on my guitar?[/b]
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Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.
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I don't think I made a mistake.
I read some of the posts of ToO and Rajk999 and they do not understand these things.

Some don't care. But I wrote it anyway. Maybe you don't care.

You are welcome to your opinion.

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Originally posted by bbarr
You radiate love.
Not as much as I'd like to and not as much as I should.

But more than I use to.

By the way, love can sometimes be a kick in the seat of the pants (Matt. 23:1-36)

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Originally posted by jaywill
I don't think you should make the mistake of over generalizing.

There is [b]much
forgiveness in the Old Testament.

First of all, all the Livitical sacrifices such as Sin Offering, Trespas Offering, Peace Offering were related to forgiveness.

Then you have God sparing Adam and promising salvation.
Then you have God not judging Cain as harshl ondemnation".[/b] But there is much forgiveness, forebearance, pardon in the Old Testament.[/b]
Notice I did not say the OT was devoid of forgiveness, rather, there is far less of it than in the NT. Case in point is the woman caught in adultery. If it had occurred before the time of Christ she is a dead woman, however,
Christ showed her mercy and she lived. This is why he came.

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Originally posted by jaywill
I just completed a piece for either guitar and flute or harp and flute.

Do you have [b]Finale
music writing software installed on your computer ?[/b]
No, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that software.

Cape Town

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Originally posted by whodey
Notice I did not say the OT was devoid of forgiveness, rather, there is far less of it than in the NT. Case in point is the woman caught in adultery. If it had occurred before the time of Christ she is a dead woman, however,
Christ showed her mercy and she lived. This is why he came.
Was the woman caught in adultery offending God or the people or both?
If she was stoned to death before Christ came, would that have been Gods punishment?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Was the woman caught in adultery offending God or the people or both?
If she was stoned to death before Christ came, would that have been Gods punishment?
I have nothing to say about what would of or could have happened if the account was different. I do not spend a lot of time on hypothetical cases.

Of course all our sinning is an offense to God.

It seems that the more vocal ones of the mob around her, ready to stone her, were only interested in so far as it gave them an excuse to criticize Jesus.