Evolution in action: Sooty moths evolve color.

Evolution in action: Sooty moths evolve color.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Natural selection is not evolution you idiot. 😏
From the same source you quote:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution
evolution
Biology . change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Darwin thought that adaptation by natural selection could result in evolution.
However, this theory has never been proved.
yes it has. see a couple examples in this thread.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
From the same source you quote:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution
evolution
Biology . change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.
But this evolution does not actually happen. It is only in theory. The
definition is based on the possibility that Darwin's theory that natural
selection may result in evolution is correct. However, it is not correct
for no kind of animal or plant has ever been shown to have evolved
into another kind of animal or plant. It just doesn't happen, period.
End of story.
😏

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Originally posted by RJHinds
But this evolution does not actually happen.
So you are denying that there is a "change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation"? If you are, then you don't know what natural selection is. If you aren't then you didn't read the definition that I quoted.
I think the real problem is that some pastor has told you that 'evolution' is an evil word so you refuse to accept the definition.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
no kind of animal or plant has ever been shown to have evolved
into another kind of animal or plant. It just doesn't happen, period.
End of story.
😏
You need to re-read the story.
Examples are listed below with scientific studies that slap your ignorant face.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/06/0604_wirealgae.html

http://sci.waikato.ac.nz/evolution/plantEvolution.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_plant_evolution

http://www.biologyreference.com/Ep-Fl/Evolution-of-Plants.html

http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/e33/33.htm

http://astrobio.net/pressrelease/3671/fungi-helped-plants-move-to-land

There are many symbiotic relationships in nature which have been proven to have evolved into singular species. Studies in plant, fungi, bacterial, and in general eukariotic cell's has revealed the FACT that multiple species do and many times have been created from singular species. All of which maintain completely separate characteristics from their host. Take Blue Green Algae's which developed in many different ways...two of which: Spirulina on one end of the spectrum, and glyceria maxima... two completely separate species that are in two separate phylum...

Eat your hat.



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Originally posted by PhySiQ
You need to re-read the story.
Examples are listed below with scientific studies that slap your ignorant face.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/06/0604_wirealgae.html

http://sci.waikato.ac.nz/evolution/plantEvolution.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_plant_evolution

http://www.biologyreference.com/Ep-Fl/Evolution-of-Pl two completely separate species that are in two separate phylum...

Eat your hat.



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When an idiot like you and a moran like me get together, there is no meeting
of the minds, for I see no evolution. 😏

So now we can forget about the apes for the theory now is that we evolved
from slimy green algae. Haven't we heard this before?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
When an idiot like you and a moran like me get together, there is no meeting
of the minds, for I see no evolution. 😏

So now we can forget about the apes for the theory now is that we evolved
from slimy green algae. Haven't we heard this before?
You look the truth in the eye and see fantasy because of your cognitive dissonance, you cannot accept reality because it collides with your religious dogma.

Your Carma just ran over your Dogma.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
When an idiot like you and a moran like me get together, there is no meeting
of the minds, for I see no evolution. 😏

So now we can forget about the apes for the theory now is that we evolved
from slimy green algae. Haven't we heard this before?
Are you denying evolution in general or only that humans evolved from apes? There's this fallacy called "moving goalposts"...

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Originally posted by Vartiovuori
Are you denying evolution in general or only that humans evolved from apes? There's this fallacy called "moving goalposts"...
I have said many times evolution is only a theory and does not occur in real
life. Adaptation under the guise of natural selection has been redefined to
mean evolution in a different way than originally intended because there is
no evidence for real evolution which is only in the minds of those that do
not want to believe in the Creator. I say again, "Evolution does not exist."

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I have said many times evolution is only a theory and does not occur in real
life. Adaptation under the guise of natural selection has been redefined to
mean evolution in a different way than originally intended because there is
no evidence for real evolution which is only in the minds of those that do
not want to believe in the Creator. I say again, "Evolution does not exist."
So in your mind, if a new species arises, say a new lizard adapted to high desert, it does not come from a previous species but because your god wanted it that way, your god has its metaphorical hand in every change happening to life forms on Earth? That would of course mean controlling the way viruses get more virulent and kill more people like the flu epidemic of 1918 that literally killed 50 million people. Is that the kind of control your god assumes over the life forms on Earth? Nothing happens to change things unless your god decrees it?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So in your mind, if a new species arises, say a new lizard adapted to high desert, it does not come from a previous species but because your god wanted it that way, your god has its metaphorical hand in every change happening to life forms on Earth? That would of course mean controlling the way viruses get more virulent and kill more people like the flu epi ...[text shortened]... sumes over the life forms on Earth? Nothing happens to change things unless your god decrees it?
You know better than that and you know why you do not want to accept the
truth. The idea of evolution is mainly based on chance happenings and any
information requires an intelligent source so that rules out evolution doesn't
it? The intelligence source is the designer and maker we call God.

Intelligent information that can direct the reproduction and adaptive changes
in living things does not take place by chance. Evolution is dumb and has no
intelligence and operates only by chance. It is the Creator God that put the
information in the living things that allows them to make adaptive changes
and reproduce after their own kind. This was done for each kind when God
created them just as the Holy Bible says. These information programs in the
genes or DNA does not allow for the evolution of one kind into another kind.
So there are only adaptive changes and not evolutionary changes and thus,
we can dismiss evolution as false since God has made sure it does not occur.

The Creator God designed the system to operate without His constant input.
It is an automatic system. The problem is that we were suppose to be a
loving and controlling agent in this system. God programmed many of the
creatures with instincts to do what they needed to do so the learning process
was reduced. In our case, God wanted us to be able to love Him, so He had
to give us more free will, since love can not be forced. The drawback was
that God had to give us the ability to disobey and reject Him. When we
disobeyed Him, that messed up everything and as a result we have the
messed up world we live in today.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You know better than that and you know why you do not want to accept the
truth. The idea of evolution is mainly based on chance happenings and any
information requires an intelligent source so that rules out evolution doesn't
it? The intelligence source is the designer and maker we call God.

Intelligent information that can direct the reproduction a ...[text shortened]... d Him, that messed up everything and as a result we have the
messed up world we live in today.
Then why did he/she/it kill the dinosaurs?

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Originally posted by Vartiovuori
Evolution = adaptation. It's as simple as that.
Not true. Adaptation does not allow for the change of a kind to a different
kind. However, evolution says that all life forms descended from a common
ancestor, which violates God's law for how adaptation is to work. In other
words, it can't happen because God has put a law in place to prevent it.
Adaptation by natural selection falls way short of being evolution. It is still
just a method of adaptation.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Then why did he/she/it kill the dinosaurs?
Man sinned.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You look the truth in the eye and see fantasy because of your cognitive dissonance, you cannot accept reality because it collides with your religious dogma.

Your Carma just ran over your Dogma.
Nevertheless his Dogma still shouldn't have been chasing it. And that ol' rascall seems better than before the accident ...