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22 Aug 05
Originally posted by PalynkaJust to be clear I am not Mormon nor Jehovah Wtns..I strongly disagree with both.
So you don't believe in the Trinity? Of the greater Christian churches, I think only Mormonism (TCJCLDS) and Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept it.
What form of Christianism do you follow?
Edit: incorrect use of the word religion
Mormons have added to the word of God, and JW don't give Jesus his rightful place as exalted by God the Father, as head of the church and given all power and authority.
22 Aug 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterDo you accept that the wordings in the Bible have been tinkered with time?
I am non denominational...am a Christian who belives in one God not three...one Lord, the son of God Jesus Christ...and the Holy Spirit is simply another name for God...again by Jesus own words..
John 4:24
24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
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and Old Testament....
Ps 99:9
9 Exalt the LORD our God, and worship at His holy hill; for the LORD our God is holy.
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I'm sorry for so many questions, my point is this: your belief is grounded in a Bible that has no original documents written by the hand of the Apostles.
If you don't believe in the established religions, wouldn't your faith be based on a tinkered Bible? Or do you also believe in a perfect good-will of those that had the power to tinker it?
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22 Aug 05
Originally posted by PalynkaI believe that the bible has very few poor translations ...I believe that the bible is about 99% accurate just as it stands. The error is mostly in private interpretation with a traditional bias. I believe the doctine of the trinity was introduced in the 4th century. There are wonderful websites that refute every verse that trinitatians use to make their claim. My favorite is
Do you accept that the wordings in the Bible have been tinkered with time?
I'm sorry for so many questions, my point is this: your belief is grounded in a Bible that has no original documents written by the hand of the Apostles.
If you don't believe in the established religions, wouldn't your faith be based on a tinkered Bible? Or do you also believe in a perfect good-will of those that had the power to tinker it?
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/
22 Aug 05
Originally posted by PalynkaGod is the Father and jesus worshiped him in all that he said and done. the Trinity has raised jesus above the angels into second place (not a good way of putting it but it will do) the holy spirit works for god coming and doing any deed that needs to be done on earth. they all work as one but none is greater than the Father, who loves and cares for all.
Do you see God as the Father or God as the Trinity?
22 Aug 05
Originally posted by stokerThe concept of the Trinity is the equivalence of all it's members and all of them are God existing in different personas, so you are incorrect in saying that the Trinity raised jesus into second place. Fair enough if you don't believe in the Trinity, but it's pointless to twist in into something it is not, so it can fit your beliefs.
God is the Father and jesus worshiped him in all that he said and done. the Trinity has raised jesus above the angels into second place (not a good way of putting it but it will do) the holy spirit works for god coming and doing any deed that needs to be done on earth. they all work as one but none is greater than the Father, who loves and cares for all.
According to Trinitarianism, Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God, and none of them are each other, just God existing in different persons.
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Originally posted by PalynkaGood definition Palynka!
The concept of the Trinity is the equivalence of all it's members and all of them are God existing in different personas, so you are incorrect in saying that the Trinity raised jesus into second place. Fair enough if you don't believe in the Trinity, but it's pointless to twist in into something it is not, so it can fit your beliefs.
According to Trini ...[text shortened]... the Holy Spirit is God, and none of them are each other, just God existing in different persons.
That is the problem with trinitarians..they want it both ways...Jesus is God, so in the garden he prays to the Father(or himself)?
Who raised Jesus from the dead?...himself, no the father...but he is the father! so did he really die?
The bible says there is ONE God the creator of the heavens and the earth.
He is the God of Jesus Christ.
Rom 15:6
6 that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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1 Pet 1:3
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
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