@divegeester saidI agree it is impossible to have the same experiences as a saved person by
It is impossible to have the same experiences as a “saved” person by pretending.
You’re missing the point here.
pretending, and he admitted he stopped because he was pretending. It isn't me
that is missing the point.
@divegeester saidAnyone without Christ is lost and he has always been without Christ, by his own
How on Earth have you got the insight to say this?
admission. Even when he claimed it was real for him he later had to admit he was
pretending.
@divegeester saidHe said he had to admit he was pretending, his words not mine. You want him to
He didn’t! What’s the matter with you?
You get like this with me too all head down and ears back lazer beam focused on completely the wrong thing.
have been both a real Christian at one time and an Atheist now that denies God
as both being true. In your world maybe those who pretend are Christians, but
not in mine they are the ones that pretend, nothing about them is real. They may
have a form of godliness, but they deny the power since they have never
experience it. If you really have encountered God your life, then your life will
change it would be impossible for it not to.
@divegeester saidHe is an Atheist, do you think God lived in Him and he could now deny Him as being
How do you know “he has always been without Christ”?
real?
@divegeester saidIt gives me insight into you as well.
This exchange between you and FMF is an interesting insight into your inability to extend your perseption to the other person’s position. It is helping me understand why I can go toe-to-toe with you for 6 pages and you still not see what’s right in front of your nose.
@divegeester saidI thought you said you read our exchange?
In which post did he say he was “pretending”?
You’re making it up.
29 Oct 18
@kellyjay saidliteral: Peter denied Christ
He is an Atheist, do you think God lived in Him and he could now deny Him as being
real?
Literal: Moses murdered
Literal: David murdered in order to committed adultery
Metaphorical: Prodigal son returned home
Metaphorical: Forgive 70 x 7 times
How many people over the millennia do you think have been either saved and fallen way only to be restored?
How many people have been close to God, drifted away and been pulled back.
Like most of the other Christians here you seem bitter that FMF has had the freedom to express an interest in God, the freedom to walk away, who knows where he was with God or where he will be in the future.
Stop being bitter and allow God to deal with him.
29 Oct 18
@divegeester saidAs I told you the scriptures are true, even if Jesus spoke in parables it was the point
literal: Peter denied Christ
Literal: Moses murdered
Literal: David murdered in order to committed adultery
Metaphorical: Prodigal son returned home
Metaphorical: Forgive 70 x 7 times
How many people over the millennia do you think have been either saved and fallen way only to be restored?
How many people have been close to God, drifted away and been pulled b ...[text shortened]... was with God or where he will be in the future.
Stop being bitter and allow God to deal with him.
he was making that mattered. Nothing was said that isn't truth, be it representative
through a parable or a metaphor, or a description of reality of events. I don't
worry about them as you do, since you want to make changes to somethings
written into things you want to deny as true, like the reality of an eternal Hell fire.
I'm not bitter at FMF you are seeing things that are not there again to make your
views of others more valid. I'm actually grateful he didn't have a real relationship
with God in his past, that means there is still hope for him. Had the Spirit of God
actually resided in him, than right now there would be nothing for him his fate
would be sealed and his damnation settled.
29 Oct 18
@divegeester saidI can repost it and show you, then will that show you lied about reading our
Where did FMF write this?
If he wrote it then you are being truthful, if he didn't then you are lying.
conversation? Ask again, but before you do, I would suggest you go to the very start
of our exchanges and read there first.
@kellyjay saidYour inability to misconstrue other people's posts is astonishing KellyJay; it is borderline dishonesty.
As I told you the scriptures are true, even if Jesus spoke in parables it was the point
he was making that mattered. Nothing was said that isn't truth, be it representative
through a parable or a metaphor, or a description of reality of events. I don't
worry about them as you do, since you want to make changes to somethings
written into things you want to deny as true, like the reality of an eternal Hell fire.
I keep explaining to you that you intellectually hiding behind the word "truth" does not excuse you from ignoring the significance of that truth being presented literally or in a metaphor or parable. It is my belief that you do this deliberately and with intellectual dishonesty to avoid the pinch you find yourself in by claiming there are men with literal swords coming out of their mouths!