Spirituality
11 Jul 05
11 Jul 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZi've searched far and wide, but i have never spotted a gravity. i think it must mean that every time i jump toward the sky, god grabs my feet and pulls me back to earth's surface so that i don't go whirling off into space. making gravity merely look tenable must occupy most of god's time.
It gravity a proven scientific fact?
Has anyone ever seen a gravity?
Why isn't equal teaching time given to the 'size doubling' theory or the 'God does it' theory?
11 Jul 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZI sense some mockery of the similar post on evolution, haha. Some major differences between gravity and evolution:
It gravity a proven scientific fact?
Has anyone ever seen a gravity?
Why isn't equal teaching time given to the 'size doubling' theory or the 'God does it' theory?
We can test gravity right now - directly, as many times as we want and find all of our trials confirmed.
We can see directly the action of gravity. eg. we can see a ball falling toward the earth.
With evolution, these things are not possible because it is considered to be such a very long and slow process. One cannot observe its effects in a lifetime.
These are some major reasons why some dispute one and not the other....
11 Jul 05
Originally posted by yousersWe can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.
I sense some mockery of the similar post on evolution, haha. Some major differences between gravity and evolution:
We can test gravity right now - directly, as many times as we want and find all of our trials confirmed.
We can see directly the action of gravity. eg. we can see a ball falling toward the earth.
With evolution, these things are not possib ...[text shortened]... effects in a lifetime.
These are some major reasons why some dispute one and not the other....
We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
11 Jul 05
gravity is the theory that accounts for the fact that things supported only by air will fall to the ground, and the observations of the features of matter that we call mass. That gravity may eventually be replaced by a better theory remains a possibility in science. however, the major criticisms of the theory of gravity concern its reduced applicability the further one gets from celestial bodies, and it seems, black holes. essentially gravity is regarded as about as reliable a theory as science can achieve, as is the theory of evolution
neither are facts in the strictest sense of the term; rather, they are interpretations of a large range of observable facts
11 Jul 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZIf we consider changes within a single species to be evolution, yes we can observe it. No one has seen "macro-evolution" as it is referred to, and it is doubtful that one possibly could.
We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.
We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
So my point was, we have far more evidence -here and now- for gravity than we do for evolution. Sure, you can't see gravity, but you also can't see the wind, atoms, or your brain. Do you doubt them as well?
As for causes, I agree. It could be God working through nature; it could be a creation of your mind, who knows?
12 Jul 05
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Originally posted by yousersActually they do have to dispute gravity to get to creation based on the bible : since gravity is "proved" by observations that confirm it's conformance with a function of time and only by assuming that time is non-abelian or at least that time dependant functions are not integratable can they get to a 6000 year old universe.
I sense some mockery of the similar post on evolution, haha. Some major differences between gravity and evolution:
We can test gravity right now - directly, as many times as we want and find all of our trials confirmed.
We can see direct ...[text shortened]... are some major reasons why some dispute one and not the other....
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12 Jul 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZNo, not to the degree of major changes over time. No one can
We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.
We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
observe evolution to that degree, they can only see what good
or bad breeding can do nothing more.
Kelly
12 Jul 05
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Originally posted by KellyJayexamples of ongoing evolution :
No, not to the degree of major changes over time. No one can
observe evolution to that degree, they can only see what good
or bad breeding can do nothing more.
Kelly
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51391-2004Apr28.html
check this out and then you can say you've seen evolution at work:
http://www.vexen.co.uk/holyshit/mudskipper.html
and they said it couldn't be done...
http://oceanlink.island.net/oinfo/biodiversity/flyingfish/flyingfish.html
now all they need is the Wright fish to put do powered flight.
12 Jul 05
Originally posted by frogstompInteresting reads, I actually have read one of those before.
examples of ongoing evolution :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51391-2004Apr28.html
check this out and then you can say you've seen evolution at work:
http://www.vexen.co.uk/holyshit/mudskipper.html
and they said it couldn't be done...
http://oceanlink.island.net/oinfo/biodiversity/flyingfish/flyingfish.html
now all they need is the Wright fish to put do powered flight.
I believe I could show you other animals, fish, planets and
say examples of evolution too, reason being because they
are animals, fish, and planets we have among us now.
What do these prove? Are those just part and parcel of the
mountain of evidence of evolution? Things like these are
just what they are, calling them evidence adds to the pile
of evidence, but really doesn’t mean much outside of calling
them evidence.
Kelly
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15 Jul 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZWe can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.
We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.
We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
Yip. That is microevolution. No one has observed macroevolution.
