03 Feb 12
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-device-lipid-spheres-mimic-cell.html
Take note Dasa. Your claims of life only coming from life gets weaker every year due to the advancements of science. In ten or twenty years you will be forced to change your stubborn stance. Or you will develop yet another set of rationalizations for these new life forms to come from mankind.
03 Feb 12
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Originally posted by sonhouseI don't understand they are so stubborn. Of course a living cell doesn't have anything other than atoms, governed by chemical reactions. They don't have a magical life forsce, that's just superstitious.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-device-lipid-spheres-mimic-cell.html
Take note Dasa. Your claims of life only coming from life gets weaker every year due to the advancements of science. In ten or twenty years you will be forced to change your stubborn stance. Or you will develop yet another set of rationalizations for these new life forms to come from mankind.
We have a long time created amino acids artificially, we can put them on a sugar base, we can easily incorporated them in an existing DNA strain, and taht one we could insert in a dead cell, and voilà it reproduces with no difficulty.
(With 'easy' I mean of course, we have the technology to do it. I cannot, but give me necessary resources, I can easily do it.)
03 Feb 12
Originally posted by FabianFnasYes but I think we will be able to take bottles of organic chemicals and inorganic for that matter, combine them in specific ways and come out with a new life form. I would not be surprised if we found another way to encode information besides DNA that Earthy life uses.
I don't understand they are so stubborn. Of course a living cell doesn't have anything other than atoms, governed by chemical reactions. They don't have a magical life forsce, that's just superstitious.
We have a long time created amino acids artificially, we can put them on a sugar base, we can easily incorporated them in an existing DNA strain, and t ...[text shortened]... e the technology to do it. I cannot, but give me necessary resources, I can easily do it.)
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03 Feb 12
Originally posted by sonhouseLipids, according to Wikipedia, have C, H, & O atoms.This won't win the argument unless the C, H, O, and any other atoms involved are shown to never have been part of a living organism, which is practically impossible to show. The life-is-special proponents can say that the "life force" or spiritual energy or elan vital or whatever they want to call it, is inherent in those atoms once they have been made by God to be part of a living thing.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-device-lipid-spheres-mimic-cell.html
Take note Dasa. Your claims of life only coming from life gets weaker every year due to the advancements of science. In ten or twenty years you will be forced to change your stubborn stance. Or you will develop yet another set of rationalizations for these new life forms to come from mankind.
03 Feb 12
Originally posted by JS357A carbon atom is like any other carbon atom with the same isotope. There isn't any kind of life force in one carbon atom. Every one is alike the other. There is no life per se in a carbon atom.
Lipids, according to Wikipedia, have C, H, & O atoms.This won't win the argument unless the C, H, O, and any other atoms involved are shown to never have been part of a living organism, which is practically impossible to show. The life-is-special proponents can say that the "life force" or spiritual energy or elan vital or whatever they want to call it, is inherent in those atoms once they have been made by God to be part of a living thing.
Same goes for any other atom with the same number of protons and neutrons.
The belief of a special kind of life force within an atom, or molecule, is supersticion.
04 Feb 12
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Originally posted by sonhouseSo your saying 4 billion years ago there was an explosion and life created itself from the rubble by accident.................but 1000 scientists over 100 years cannot do it with a blank cheque from the government to fund there experiments.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-device-lipid-spheres-mimic-cell.html
Take note Dasa. Your claims of life only coming from life gets weaker every year due to the advancements of science. In ten or twenty years you will be forced to change your stubborn stance. Or you will develop yet another set of rationalizations for these new life forms to come from mankind.
Absurd.
Show me a conscious awareness chemical please.
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04 Feb 12
Originally posted by DasaME!
So your saying 4 billion years ago there was an explosion and life created itself from the rubble by accident.................but 1000 scientists over 100 years cannot do it with a blank cheque from the government to fund there experiments.
Absurd.
Show me a conscious awareness chemical please.
04 Feb 12
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Originally posted by DasaInteresting comment. In your mythology, the government gives 1000 scientists a blank check to lets see, prove that god doesn't exist because we can create a new life form? I think the only time that happened was about 70 odd years ago with the Manhattan project. That was to win a war. So you figure only the government is interested in proving your god is wrong. Interesting.
So your saying 4 billion years ago there was an explosion and life created itself from the rubble by accident.................but 1000 scientists over 100 years cannot do it with a blank cheque from the government to fund there experiments.
Absurd.
Show me a conscious awareness chemical please.
I think you know full well awareness takes trillions of brain cells, not some of your mythological chemicals. You don't do sarcasm very well.
