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@divegeester saidIt means you prattle a lot, and are void of substance in regards to coherent debate.
What does this mean?
@divegeester saidIt means you prattle a lot, and are void of substance in regards to coherent debate.
What does this mean?
@secondson saidOf your “spiritual muscle” ? Or of you still praying for your version of god to “get me”?
Getting worried?
@divegeester saidDon't you want to be gotten by God?
Of your “spiritual muscle” ? Or of you still praying for your version of god to “get me”?
@secondson said'Everlasting punishment' surely comes from the mind of flawed human beings, not a perfectly loving deity? Surely?
Don't you want to be gotten by God?
You know, the one and only God. The God that calls to account those that blaspheme His name and pays everlasting punishment to for their sins?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWhat's even more peculiar is that the 'everlasting punishment', for all intents and purposes, is not for "sin", it's for not believing you are "forgiven".
'Everlasting punishment' surely comes from the mind of flawed human beings, not a perfectly loving deity? Surely?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIt's spelled out in plain English, or in the Greek, in words inspired by God, in a book called the Bible.
'Everlasting punishment' surely comes from the mind of flawed human beings, not a perfectly loving deity? Surely?
@fmf saidWhat's peculiar is how you wrangle around with words to over complicate a simple concept.
What's even more peculiar is that the 'everlasting punishment', for all intents and purposes, is not for "sin", it's for not believing you are "forgiven".
@secondson saidThere is no "wrangle" with words involved. I have encapsulated the OSAS concept in an uncomplicated and succinct way.
What's peculiar is how you wrangle around with words to over complicate a simple concept.
@secondson saidMy rendition of this was better. Look again. "Believe" what? The doctrine is, for all intents and purposes, as I stated it.
God's Word teaches that those who believe have eternal life, and those who don't experience everlasting punishment in outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
@secondson saidThe Bible was written by man, hence the flawed and disproportionate concepts of everlasting punishment. If the Bible had indeed been inspired by an all wise and all loving deity such concepts wouldn't feature.
It's spelled out in plain English, or in the Greek, in words inspired by God, in a book called the Bible.
That God is love does not diminish from the fact that God is also just, not only to forgive, but to bring into account anyone that rejects His salvation.
It's in The Book, and no amount of twisting and wresting with it will change one wit of it.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWiser than God are you?
The Bible was written by man, hence the flawed and disproportionate concepts of everlasting punishment. If the Bible had indeed been inspired by an all wise and all loving deity such concepts wouldn't feature.
The Bible was written by man, hence the flawed and disproportionate concepts of everlasting punishment. If the Bible had indeed been inspired by an all wise and all loving deity such concepts wouldn't feature.
@secondson saidThe Bible was written by man. Therefore quoting passages from this man written book, about how it is inspired by God, is never going to have any traction with me.
Wiser than God are you?
If the Word of God is inspired, 2 Timothy 16, and men were moved by the Holy Ghost, 2 Peter 1:21, to pen the words, then your concept is flawed.
God not only inspired His Word, but also preserves it. Psalm 12:6,7.
@secondson saidI am not “getting worried” about your “spiritual muscle”, which may feel to you as though it carries some authoritative clout and which is no doubt regarded with some level of mirth within your little religious group, nor am I “getting worried” about your version of god “getting me”, nor am I “getting worried” about you coming out of your “used to be” tough guy retirement and duffing me up.
Don't you want to be gotten by God?
You know, the one and only God. The God that calls to account those that blaspheme His name and pays everlasting punishment to for their sins?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidJesus.
What external evidence do you have of the divine authorship of the Bible?