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Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?

Just heard a long talk on that on Radio Australia.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?

Just heard a long talk on that on Radio Australia.
This comes from the Roman Catholic Church after the split of the Catholic Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_Confessional_and_the_Catholic_Church

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Confession

A true confession and repentance is not something that should remain hidden and kept a secret from others.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?

Just heard a long talk on that on Radio Australia.
if the priest weren't bound by that oath, the perp wouldn't have gone to confession.

the system has its uses and is for everyone. even monsters who do not wish to repent.

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Fort Gordon

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
if the priest weren't bound by that oath, the perp wouldn't have gone to confession.

the system has its uses and is for everyone. even monsters who do not wish to repent.
It is Satan the devil's idea of a confession done in secret.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?

Just heard a long talk on that on Radio Australia.
Yes the priest should be legally obligated to 'turn the perp in' as you put it.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?

Just heard a long talk on that on Radio Australia.
Are there any professions/callings that should not be so obligated?

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Originally posted by JS357
Are there any professions/callings that should not be so obligated?
The laws here locally require doctors, psychiatrists, therapists, etc. to report all child abuse claims or suspicions.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?

Just heard a long talk on that on Radio Australia.
It depends entirely where you are, If you live in Texas you are duty bound to report it
but not in Virginia, if you live in the Republic of Ireland you must report it, but not in
the UK,

Britain has no law requiring schools or other institutions responsible for the care of
children to report allegations or incidents of child sex abuse. A head teacher can know
that one of his or her staff has sexually assaulted one of the pupils and he or she has
no legal obligation to report anything to anybody.

http://scepticalthoughts.blogspot.co.uk/

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Originally posted by ChessPraxis
The laws here locally require doctors, psychiatrists, therapists, etc. to report all child abuse claims or suspicions.
How about lawyers who defend criminals?

P.S. That is, should defense lawyers be require to report to the court that their client has confessed the crime to them?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
It depends entirely where you are, If you live in Texas you are duty bound to report it
but not in Virginia, if you live in the Republic of Ireland you must report it, but not in
the UK,

Britain has no law requiring schools or other institutions responsible for the care of
children to report allegations or incidents of child sex abuse. A he ...[text shortened]...
no legal obligation to report anything to anybody.

http://scepticalthoughts.blogspot.co.uk/
Sorry? The morality of the situation depends on where you are???

The morality of the situation is legally and geographically independent.

The legality of the is an entirely separate question.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
How about lawyers who defend criminals?

P.S. That is, should defense lawyers be require to report to the court that their client has confessed the crime to them?
You must mean lawyers who defend the accused. A good question for debates.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Sorry? The morality of the situation depends on where you are???

The morality of the situation is legally and geographically independent.

The legality of the is an entirely separate question.
My goodness you are thick, re read the original question again, there are two aspects,
one moral, the other legal, what a slap head you purport to be.

here i will even put them in bold , see if you are able to comprehend their import,
colouring pencils available on request.


'Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children,
should that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?' - sonhouse

sorry you were saying Mr know-it-all

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
My goodness you are thick, re read the original question again, there are two aspects,
one moral, the other legal, what a slap head you purport to be.
Yes. The question is SHOULD the priest be obligated to turn them in.

Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should
that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?


Answering by saying what the law currently is thus totally irrelevant and failing
to answer the question.

Whether it is or is not legal in particular jurisdictions is irrelevant to the question
as to whether it SHOULD be illegal.

And given that every time you respond by telling my I'm thick and should read
something it turns out that I'm right and your not, you should really stop saying that.

It' makes you look extremely thick.

Of course that's because you are, but you shouldn't make it so obvious.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Yes. The question is SHOULD the priest be obligated to turn them in.

Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is that [b]morally ok?

That is to say, if a perp goes to a catholic priest and confesses he abuses children, should
that priest be legally obligated to turn the perp in?


Answering by saying w extremely thick.

Of course that's because you are, but you shouldn't make it so obvious.[/b]
suck it up fatboy and learn to read the question in future, there are too aspects, one moral and one legal, get it.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
My goodness you are thick, re read the original question again, there are two aspects,
one moral, the other legal, what a slap head you purport to be.

here i will even put them in bold , see if you are able to comprehend their import,
colouring pencils available on request.


'Sorry, that meant to be the Catholic Seal of Confessional, is th ...[text shortened]... legally obligated
to turn the perp in?' - sonhouse

sorry you were saying Mr know-it-all[/b]
Oh good you just edited it to make yourself look even more stupid.

Look at the words before 'legally obligated' you moron.



The question of SHOULD something be legal/illegal is often/generally a moral one.
This one is and is framed that way, with the morality mentioned in the first sentence.