Can you trust science?

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Explain to me how this article backs up your assertions.
Do you trust this scientific discovery that refutes what the evolutionist
say? I don't think twhitehead would trust it because is goes against
his world view.

Cornovii

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Do you trust this scientific discovery that refutes what the evolutionist
say? I don't think twhitehead would trust it because is goes against
his world view.
Explain to me in your own words how this 'refutes what the evolutionist say'.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Explain to me in your own words how this 'refutes what the evolutionist say'.
Are you an English teacher trying to test my comprehension of the
language because you already know I am not a good speller?

As I understand it evolutionists have been citing as proof of
evolution certain genes that were thought to have no function.
They said they were leftovers from the process of evolution.

Recent discoveries have determined that these gene do have functions
and proves that the evolutionists were wrong.

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But why don't at least some academics just come right out and say that Evolution virtually equals Atheism ?

Follow the money.


" I suspect there is a lot of intellectual dishonesty on this issue. Consider the following fantasy: the National Academy of Sciences publishes a position paper on science and religion stating that modern science leads directly to atheism. What would happen to its funding? To any federal funding of science? Every member of the Congress of the United States of America, even the two current members who are unaffiliated with any organized religion, profess to be deeply religious. I suspect that scientific leaders tread very warily on the issue of the religious implications of science for fear of jeopardizing the funding for scientific research. And I think that many scientist feel some sympathy with the need for moral education and recognize the role that religion plays in this endeavor. These rationalizations are politic but intellectually dishonest. " ~ William Provine

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Originally posted by jaywill
But why don't at least some academics just come right out and say that Evolution virtually equals Atheism ?

Follow the money.

[b]
" I suspect there is a lot of intellectual dishonesty on this issue. Consider the following fantasy: the National Academy of Sciences publishes a position paper on science and religion stating that modern science lead ...[text shortened]... These rationalizations are politic but intellectually dishonest. " ~ William Provine
[/b]
http://ncse.com/news/2009/12/evolution-new-harris-poll-005232

"...51% of Catholics, 32% of Protestants, 80% of Jews, and 16% of born-again Christians believed in Darwin's theory of evolution..."

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Are you an English teacher trying to test my comprehension of the
language because you already know I am not a good speller?

As I understand it evolutionists have been citing as proof of
evolution certain genes that were thought to have no function.
They said they were leftovers from the process of evolution.

Recent discoveries have determined that these gene do have functions
and proves that the evolutionists were wrong.
Are you an English teacher trying to test my comprehension of the
language because you already know I am not a good speller?


No. I'm trying to see if you have an understanding of what you blithely copy and paste. Incidentally, i think your spelling is fine.

Recent discoveries have determined that these gene do have functions
and proves that the evolutionists were wrong.


No recent discoveries have shown that SOME pseudogenes have functions. From the reports abstract -

[/b][S]ome[/b] pseudogenes appear to harbor the potential to regulate their protein-coding cousins. Far from being silent relics, many pseudogenes are transcribed into RNA, some exhibiting a tissue-specific pattern of activation.


It basically means things are quite as simple as we thought, but then that's science.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Example please...................
" Intelligent Design is just creationism in a cheap tuxedo. Its just a stealth move to get religion into the school house."

Translation: "Do NOT follow the evidence where it just might lead. Don't let a divine foot get into the door. "


Ie. "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed "

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Originally posted by jaywill
" Intelligent Design is just creationism in a cheap tuxedo. Its just a stealth move to get religion into the school house."

Translation: "Do NOT follow the evidence where it just [b]might
lead. Don't let a divine foot get into the door. "


Ie. "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvq4xIHmH4[/b]
I have no qualm with ID being taught in schools, just put it into the religious education class along with all the other creation stories from other cultures.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I have no qualm with ID being taught in schools, just put it into the religious education class along with all the other creation stories from other cultures.
Expelled: No Intellegene Allowed

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Originally posted by jaywill
[b] Expelled: No Intellegene Allowed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvq4xIHmH4[/b]
Either put it into your own words or we'll have to leave it there.

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Originally posted by avalanchethecat
http://ncse.com/news/2009/12/evolution-new-harris-poll-005232

"...51% of Catholics, 32% of Protestants, 80% of Jews, and 16% of born-again Christians believed in Darwin's theory of evolution..."


"...51% of Catholics, 32% of Protestants, 80% of Jews, and 16% of born-again Christians believed in Darwin's theory of evolution..."


So ? That's the point. A lot of these religious affiliated poll respondents are theists. So, better not to publish that Evolution logically leads to Atheism. That is "New Atheism" style.

As books by New Atheists enfluence more young people, National Academy of Science employs more such thinking people, Smithsonian employs more such young people out of universities where New Atheism is in vogue.

They're not dumb. When it comes to funding they know who not to disturb.
Get them in an honest moment and expose the agenda of the New Atheist.

Relegate Theism to the Middle Ages.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I have no qualm with ID being taught in schools, just put it into the religious education class along with all the other creation stories from other cultures.

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Originally posted by jaywill


"...51% of Catholics, 32% of Protestants, 80% of Jews, and 16% of born-again Christians believed in Darwin's theory of evolution..."


So ? That's the point. A lot of these religious affiliated poll respondents are theists. So, better not to publish that Evolution logically leads to Atheism. That is "New Atheism" style.

A ...[text shortened]... moment and expose the agenda of the New Atheist.

Relegate Theism to the Middle Ages.
Let's all pray for the success of atheism.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I have no qualm with ID being taught in schools, just put it into the religious education class along with all the other creation stories from other cultures.
It should be taught in the exact same class that the theory of evolution
is taught, whatever that class happens to be.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Let's all pray for the success of atheism.
We Christians must stand against Satan and keep Atheism from becoming
anything more than a minority religion by protecting our young people
from the false indoctrination occurring through the teaching of the theory
of evolution as fact without teaching the fact of creation to refute it.