Originally posted by pcaspianLonely, yes. Lonely enough to have an unhealthy obsession with a bald cleric from Kentucky, no.
Originally posted by royalchicken
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This post, Darfius, is a non sequitur, except inasmuch as it helps clarify what non sequiturs are.
Man, you're gonna be one lonely grown-up one day. Take that any way you like to 🙂
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Originally posted by royalchickenI'm still tryin to find out from DoctorScribbles if it hurts. He is strangley avoidant.
I don't know. But you'd best hope the Prince gets himself some racist tendencies, or change you address, or you'll be representin' up in tha Sodomites' thread with some personal experience, ya dig?
Originally posted by royalchickenYo, wit Brotha Kirksey bein' a Reverend and all, I believe tha good Lord has an interest in protectin' his assets, know what I'm sayin'?
I don't know. But you'd best hope the Prince gets himself some racist tendencies, or change you address, or you'll be representin' up in tha Sodomites' thread with some personal experience, ya dig?
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWell, you know when you end up on the cover of Time magazine and you're hailed as the next Billy Graham, the only way to go is down.
Yo, wit Brotha Kirksey bein' a Reverend and all, I believe tha good Lord has an interest in protectin' his assests, know what I'm sayin'?
I don't think Hitler deserves eternal damnation. Consider placing some finite measure of badness on Hitler's crimes. This is not so far fetched. We do something very similar when we compare the relative badness of Hitler's offenses to those of the average person. We assign them all some measure (perhaps not formally) of "badness."
Against this measure we apply a measure of punishment. The measure is generally thought of as positively related to the measure of "badness" so that the more "bad" one has been the more "punished" they should be.
I postulate that no one can do infinite "badness." This is because a person's life is finite and so the amount of "badness" that can feasibly be done is bounded from above. If the person had lived a day longer, they could have done more bad deeds and so the amount that they actually did is bounded from above and thus not infinite.
Now if we consider the ratio of "badness" to "punishment," we find that in the limit as "punishment" goes to infinity (eternal damnation) the relation of "badness" to "punishment" goes to zero. This is the case with the "badness" of every human because every human's "badness" is finite. So from the eternal perspective, the difference in "badness" between Hitler and any other person is basically zero when one compares this to the length of punishment.
Summary, no human can commit enough "badness" to deserve eternal punishment.
Are you all aware of what Hell is?
Hell is a place that is eternal and complete seperation from God. It is highly doubtful that it is literal fire...but that was the best imagery to describe the torture. The torture is being away from God who is all goodness and joy.
The point is...if you deny God all of your life, wouldn't you want Him to respect your wish after you die and seperate you from Him? What will change after you die?
Originally posted by DarfiusI experience goodness and joy now without any help from god. If I died, found out there was a god, and that hell was a complete and eternal separation from him, what would have changed?
Are you all aware of what Hell is?
Hell is a place that is eternal and complete seperation from God. It is highly doubtful that it is literal fire...but that was the best imagery to describe the torture. The torture is being away from God who is all goodness and joy.
The point is...if you deny God all of your life, wouldn't you want Him to respect your wish after you die and seperate you from Him? What will change after you die?
Originally posted by rwingettYou are wrong, dear rwing. God IS in the world, in the form of the Holy Spirit in those who believe in Him. And that same Holy Spirit whispers to your heart everyday, waiting for you to listen.
I experience goodness and joy now without any help from god. If I died, found out there was a god, and that hell was a complete and eternal separation from him, what would have changed?
Originally posted by DarfiusLet's look at Darfius' post.
Are you all aware of what Hell is?
Het is highly doubtful that it is literal fire...but that was the best imagery to describe the torture.ll is a place that is eternal and complete seperation from God. I The torture is being away from God who is all goodness and joy.
The point is...if you deny God all of your life, wouldn't you want Him to respect your wish after you die and seperate you from Him? What will change after you die?
Are you all aware of what Hell is?
Yes, I have a gist from what the Bible says, but the apart from God stuff with no flames is just a nice preacher's story.
I don't see why flames are "highly doubtful." There is no reason behind this speculation. It's just parroting.
Of course we can rule out the "seperation from god" idea because it conflicts with omnipresence. If God is not there, then God exists in a space that his larger than He is. Where did this space come from?
The point is...if you deny God all of your life, wouldn't you want Him to respect your wish after you die and seperate you from Him? What will change after you die?
A great piece of crap from Strobel's book, A Case for Faith. I believe it was either Kreeft or William Lane Craig who said this. What nonsense. The obvious answer is "No." Of course, if I die and find out that Darfius' sadistic god is real, I will want to avoid this Hell. If heaven is all its cracked up to be, it must be at least a little better than Hell. I don't reject this god because I hate it. I reject it because it isn't real. If this god is real maybe I can learn to like him. Sheesh.
If anyone is interested there are a whole lot more silly delusional thinking and straw man tipping in the book. Just don't make the mistake I did and purchase it with your own money.