03 Feb 14
Originally posted by SuzianneThat is fine, as long as theists grasp that by 'reject', we don't mean 'shunned/avoided it because I didn't like it'. We tend to use a different word to avoid misunderstandings and distraction from the topic at hand.
Semantics. By refusing to acknowledge it, you are rejecting it.
We've been over and over this before.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyFalse. One must first recognize an authority before one can rebel against it.
What they all have in common, of course, is the rejection of deity and rebellion against authority.
If you dispute this, I must inquire about the disturbing state of angst that exists in your mind that causes you to rebel against the authority of Shiva, Zeus, Allah, etc. Surely your Dad must have abused you or died when you were very young to cause this alarming psychological fracture.
03 Feb 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyLearning more about it, isn't going to happen until you start actually reading what other people write. Atheism isn't a belief - and its shocking that you don't know that yet considering the amount of threads you have started on the topic.
It's their belief; learning more about it sure isn't going to happen in a thread focused on biblical topics per se.
03 Feb 14
Originally posted by SwissGambitIt always seems to come down to arguments over bloody definitions!
That is fine, as long as theists grasp that by 'reject', we don't mean 'shunned/avoided it because I didn't like it'. We tend to use a different word to avoid misunderstandings and distraction from the topic at hand.
I would expand but I can't be arsed and it's time to go home!
Laterz.
Penguin
Originally posted by SwissGambitOriginally posted by Grampy Bobby
False. One must first recognize an authority before one can rebel against it.
If you dispute this, I must inquire about the disturbing state of angst that exists in your mind that causes you to rebel against the authority of Shiva, Zeus, Allah, etc. Surely your Dad must have abused you or died when you were very young to cause this alarming psychological fracture.
"Atheist Talking Points: What is Atheism?"
Types of Atheism:
"You might think that Atheism is a simple concept – no god – but that would be far too simplistic. Atheism comes in an entire spectrum of beliefs, varying from Rationalism to Anti-Rationalism; from empiricism to Postmodernism; from Enlightenment to nihilism. What they all have in common, of course, is the rejection of deity and rebellion against authority. [1] (OP)
SG, have you rejected deity in the past or do you reject deity now?
03 Feb 14
Originally posted by PenguinOriginally posted by Penguin
It always seems to come down to arguments over bloody definitions!
I would expand but I can't be arsed and it's time to go home!
Laterz.
Penguin
It always seems to come down to arguments over bloody definitions!
I would expand but I can't be arsed and it's time to go home!
Laterz.
Penguin
I like that, Penguin--- "home!" is a place where we're all trying to get back to each day we live (its a yearning deep within).
03 Feb 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm an atheist now.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]"Atheist Talking Points: What is Atheism?"
Types of Atheism:
"You might think that Atheism is a simple concept – no god – but that would be far too simplistic. Atheism comes in an entire spectrum of beliefs, varying from Rationalism to Anti-Rationalism; from empiricism to Postmodernism; from Enlig ...[text shortened]... t authority. [1][/b] (OP)
SG, have you rejected deity in the past or do you reject deity now?[/b]
- Joined
- 29 Dec 08
- Moves
- 6788
03 Feb 14
Originally posted by PenguinIt is as though the depiction of the atheist as rejecting something offered, is an essential part of some theists' worldview. It is so essential that it has to be in the definition.
This is like a stuck record!
[b]An atheist lacks belief in a deity.
How many times?!?!?!?!
Penguin[/b]
03 Feb 14
1 edit
Originally posted by PenguinOriginally posted by SwissGambit
This is like a stuck record!
[b]An atheist lacks belief in a deity.
How many times?!?!?!?!
Penguin[/b]
False. One must first recognize an authority before one can rebel against it.
If you dispute this, I must inquire about the disturbing state of angst that exists in your mind that causes you to rebel against the authority of Shiva, Zeus, Allah, etc. Surely your Dad must have abused you or died when you were very young to cause this alarming psychological fracture.
_______________________________________
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Atheist Talking Points: What is Atheism?"
Types of Atheism:
"You might think that Atheism is a simple concept – no god – but that would be far too simplistic. Atheism comes in an entire spectrum of beliefs, varying from Rationalism to Anti-Rationalism; from empiricism to Postmodernism; from Enlightenment to nihilism. What they all have in common, of course, is the rejection of deity and rebellion against authority. [1] (OP)
SG, have you rejected deity in the past or do you reject deity now?[/b]
_____________________________________
Originally posted by SwissGambit
I'm an atheist now.
_________________________________
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Would it be correct to postulate that an "atheist" by definition rejects theistic deity?
_________________________
Originally posted by Penguin
This is like a stuck record!
[b]An atheist lacks belief in a deity.
How many times?!?!?!?!
Penguin, there's no real cause or provocation for becoming irritated and emotional ["?!?!?!?!"]; I'm well aware of your "lack of belief in a deity", thanks to your previous statements. The reply you've chosen to reply to is made to SwissGambit. -Bob
03 Feb 14
Originally posted by JS357Originally posted by JS357
It is as though the depiction of the atheist as rejecting something offered, is an essential part of some theists' worldview. It is so essential that it has to be in the definition.
It is as though the depiction of the atheist as rejecting something offered, is an essential part of some theists' worldview. It is so essential that it has to be in the definition.
A theist trying to understand the world view of an atheist requires a starting point... a few definitional blocks to build upon.