Originally posted by RJHindsI respectfully disagree. The quote(s) came from a religious book. I used them in a religious context, as have others earlier in this post. How is this out of context? I didn't apply the meaning to situations outside of religious belief. Is my usage any different to the interpretation provided by sumydid? I'm genuinely curious given I used a religious / belief context which I interpreted as the intent of the original quote.
But what you are saying is not in context with the Bible verse. You
are generalizing the statements to apply to almost anything. This
statement by Yahshua (Jesus) concerned a specific incident and
situation. You are wrong to go take it out of context and apply it to
any situation.
Originally posted by andrew93Luke 9:49-50 John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting
I respectfully disagree. The quote(s) came from a religious book. I used them in a religious context, as have others earlier in this post. How is this out of context? I didn't apply the meaning to situations outside of religious belief. Is my usage any different to the interpretation provided by sumydid? I'm genuinely curious given I used a religious / belief context which I interpreted as the intent of the original quote.
out demons in Your name; and we tried to prevent him because he does
not follow along with us.” But Jesus said to him, “Do not hinder him;
for he who is not against you is for you.”
My initial response to this was the following; I think He means
that anyone that is doing good Christian work by honoring Christ
is not against them, but is helping in their work. So they should
not be prevented, but encouraged to continue the good work and
honor Christ. (This has to do with Christian service only)
Luke 11:14-23 And He was casting out a demon, and it was mute; when
the demon had gone out, the mute man spoke; and the crowds were amazed.
But some of them said, “He casts out demons by Beelzebul, the ruler of
the demons.” Others, to test Him, were demanding of Him a sign from
heaven. But He knew their thoughts and said to them, “Any kingdom
divided against itself is laid waste; and a house divided against
itself falls. If Satan also is divided against himself, how will his
kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebul. And
if I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out?
So they will be your judges. But if I cast out demons by the finger
of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. When a strong man,
fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.
But when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he
takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied and
distributes his plunder. He who is not with Me is against Me; and he
who does not gather with Me, scatters."
The statement by Christ here, "He who is not with Me is against Me"
is said in relation to what has just happened. Some of the people
were against Christ and attempted to get the other people to be
against him also by saying he was casting out demons by Beelzebul
(Satan). This statement was a reply to all those that attacked him
for what He was doing. (This has to do with Christ in this situation)