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It is what it is

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Originally posted by scherzo
Er, no. It's the word of God.
OK, seeing that you want to debate "intelligently", let's take this through to its logical conclusion and see if we can reach an agreement.

It started off (if I remember correctly) that someone said that they are nervous - and afraid - of Muslims and their intentions.

You replied that Islam "is not inherently antagonistic to the West" or words to that effect.

I challenged that by quoting the statements about the Great Satan and you replied that only SOME islamic leaders have said that after being provoked by the US.

Then you quoted verses from the Quran which say it is wrong to take human life EXCEPT under certain justifiable conditions.

I then said that this is what gives those leaders we spoke about the legal islamic authority to kill. And that WHEN this is justified is a matter of interpretation and opinion.

Your response is that it is the word of God.

SO the final conclusion must be that it is wrong for someone to kill somebody EXCEPT when God says so.

Which brings us full circle - conclusion: the West would do well to fear Islam.

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Originally posted by CalJust
OK, seeing that you want to debate "intelligently", let's take this through to its logical conclusion and see if we can reach an agreement.

It started off (if I remember correctly) that someone said that they are nervous - and afraid - of Muslims and their intentions.

You replied that Islam "is not inherently antagonistic to the West" or words to that ...[text shortened]... says so.

Which brings us full circle - conclusion: the West would do well to fear Islam.
Good point!

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Originally posted by CalJust
OK, seeing that you want to debate "intelligently", let's take this through to its logical conclusion and see if we can reach an agreement.

It started off (if I remember correctly) that someone said that they are nervous - and afraid - of Muslims and their intentions.

You replied that Islam "is not inherently antagonistic to the West" or words to that ...[text shortened]... says so.

Which brings us full circle - conclusion: the West would do well to fear Islam.
That brings us to the next point:

THE MYTH OF THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS

Listen to it.

Then read

COVERING ISLAM

by the same author, an Arab-American protestant by the way.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Does it say "I surrender" on it?
No. It has a little circle with an arrow pointing left following an Arabic letter "jiin" and the arrow's in the middle of a drawing of Palestine.

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Originally posted by scherzo
No. It has a little circle with an arrow pointing left following an Arabic letter "jiin" and the arrow's in the middle of a drawing of Palestine.
hmm.

you really are passionate about palestine, are you also passionate about Ohio?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
hmm.

you really are passionate about palestine, are you also passionate about Ohio?
Do you know what that flag even is?

Mods, cover your eyes and plug your ears: this is a site for an organization designated by the US State Dept. as "terrorist" because they made some scrap metal without killing anyone in Jordan in 1970. I provide it solely for gen's benefit:

www.pflp.ps/english

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Originally posted by scherzo
Do you know what that flag even is?

Mods, cover your eyes and plug your ears: this is a site for an organization designated by the US State Dept. as "terrorist" because they made some scrap metal without killing anyone in Jordan in 1970. I provide it solely for gen's benefit:

www.pflp.ps/english
So you support the actions of an organisation labeled by the US govt. as terrorist ?


I wonder, how don't you get picked up?

Im also watin for an asnwer, are you passionate about Ohio?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
So you support the actions of an organisation labeled by the US govt. as terrorist ?


I wonder, how don't you get picked up?

Im also watin for an asnwer, are you passionate about Ohio?
Oh, they try, believe me. They try.

But the PFLP is no more terrorist than El Nino.

And what in Ohio would I be passionate about? I'm very passionate about some US issues, such as health care and socialism. If that means anything. Nothing in particular here in Ohio catches my interest, except for the huge KKK base in the south of the state.

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Originally posted by scherzo
Oh, they try, believe me. They try.

But the PFLP is no more terrorist than El Nino.

And what in Ohio would I be passionate about? I'm very passionate about some US issues, such as health care and socialism. If that means anything. Nothing in particular here in Ohio catches my interest, except for the huge KKK base in the south of the state.
But the PFLP is no more terrorist than El Nino.

I hope so.


And what in Ohio would I be passionate about? I'm very passionate about some US issues, such as health care and socialism. If that means anything. Nothing in particular here in Ohio catches my interest, except for the huge KKK base in the south of the state.


Every place has negatives and positives.

ever thought about going somewhere else? like California for example?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
[b]But the PFLP is no more terrorist than El Nino.

I hope so.


And what in Ohio would I be passionate about? I'm very passionate about some US issues, such as health care and socialism. If that means anything. Nothing in particular here in Ohio catches my interest, except for the huge KKK base in the south of the state.


Every place ...[text shortened]... gatives and positives.

ever thought about going somewhere else? like California for example?[/b]
1. El Nino is not terrorist. Neither is the PFLP. You want terrorists, go to Tel-Aviv.
2. California is falling apart right now. My kids would be unable to get a good education. Of course I wouldn't move there.

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Originally posted by scherzo
California is falling apart right now. My kids would be unable to get a good education. Of course I wouldn't move there.
Ever thought of moving to Jordan - or Iran - or Afganistan??

Put your feet where your convictions are!

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Originally posted by CalJust
Ever thought of moving to Jordan - or Iran - or Afganistan??

Put your feet where your convictions are!
Yeah, whatever. Iran would be nice. I'm not that passionate about Afghanistan ... it's not like they aren't run by US-loving Sunni extremists.

EDIT: Extremist conservatives, no less.