10 Nov 13
Originally posted by twhiteheadno its not
'The supernatural' is nothing more than a claim that there are no universal rules. Hence, it is not necessary for anything to 'make sense' as in 'follow certain rules'.
Of course most people who invoke the supernatural do so in order to claim that they know the rules and everyone else doesn't - or rather they make up the rules then invoke the supernatural as a socially acceptable way of saying 'I make up the rules and nobody can tell me different'.
10 Nov 13
Originally posted by Great King RatWhen one goes from house to house with a Bible in ones hand, it helps, it helps a great deal 😀
LOL, your brain is pretty fvcked up from all those years of religious indoctrination, but I can't deny you have retained a decent sense of humour.
10 Nov 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes, I assume it holds back the tears of constant failure, doesn't it?
When one goes from house to house with a Bible in ones hand, it helps, it helps a great deal 😀
What percentage of people that you bothe...... I mean talk to on your door-to-door trips is actually interested in what you're telling them?
10 Nov 13
Originally posted by Great King Ratyou are asking where do you draw the line. where do you state "this is bullsht, i am certain it isn't possible". it is hard to describe the exact place when certainty of the impossiblity of something becomes "i don't know and cannot know for sure".
I'm not asking if it's your problem and I'm not asking if it bothers you.
I'm asking if you must consider yourself agnostic about the situation I just described. It was really a very simple question.
I agree with your definition about atheism. I merely pointed out that Sonhouse doesn't consider himself an atheist (thus is not sure god doesn't exist). But he should comment on that himself if he wants to.
a simple answer would be yes, i should be agnostic about that. "i do not know" doesn't close any doors, it doesn't limit you in any way. you reserve judgement and put it aside.
Sonhouse doesn't consider himself an atheist
from what he has been posting, he is clearly an atheist. hence me saying it doesn't matter what he calls himself.
10 Nov 13
Originally posted by Great King Ratno.
But certainly with god's help such a boat would be possible?
god made the world obey the laws of physics. we observe them now, we strive to understand them. the fact that they don't bend and twist is what makes that boat impossible.
god didn't actually hammer a nail in that boat. he made noah, a human, use non-magical wood, non-magical nails. he described in detail how to build that boat. by those details, we know that boat is impossible. the fact that it isn't written in the bible "after noah completed that piece of crp construction, god saw it would crumble to pieces first time someone sneezed in its direction, so he covered it in magical god spit and made it an awesome boat". and that is only dealing with the seaworthiness of such a boat.
we may say for sure about some things that are impossible, while staying within a system of axioms and postulates. if we cannot trust those, then nothing can really be known and we might as well burn all science books.
10 Nov 13
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Originally posted by Great King Ratnot many respond, but mostly people are polite if disinterested, apathetic is the word i would use 😀
Yes, I assume it holds back the tears of constant failure, doesn't it?
What percentage of people that you bothe...... I mean talk to on your door-to-door trips is actually interested in what you're telling them?