17 Sep 06
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060914/ts_csm/cbuddha
The word is that Buddhism is on the rise in America. My hope would be that more are introduced to Dharma practice -- not necessarily to "Buddhism" as a set of beliefs. This article seems to suggest that the movement of Buddhism in America is largely oriented toward meditative practices.
17 Sep 06
Originally posted by LemonJelloIts a 'Westernised' Buddhism with all the connatations that 'Westernism' evokes, ie self advantage, mysticim of the orient, joining the latest trend/fad, occidental appropriation of the orient, essentialising the orient etc etc.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060914/ts_csm/cbuddha
The word is that Buddhism is on the rise in America. My hope would be that more are introduced to Dharma practice -- not necessarily to "Buddhism" as a set of beliefs. This article seems to suggest that the movement of Buddhism in America is largely oriented toward meditative practices.
17 Sep 06
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there's a contradiction in terms to start with between America and Budhism
Budhism is getting read of everything to focus on your spirituality, while the American way is to waste all your life making money and not caring about spirituality (except praying god for money - eh eh)
17 Sep 06
Originally posted by LemonJelloEvangelical Buddhism?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060914/ts_csm/cbuddha
The word is that Buddhism is on the rise in America. My hope would be that more are introduced to Dharma practice -- not necessarily to "Buddhism" as a set of beliefs. This article seems to suggest that the movement of Buddhism in America is largely oriented toward meditative practices.
17 Sep 06
Originally posted by rwingettIt's true!
Evangelical Buddhism?
Just the other day, a bunch of extremist Buddhists chased me into
a dead-end alley, held knives to my throat, stuffed curry in my mouth
and made me swear an oath on the demiurge that I will make my
inner Buddha see the light of Nirvana!
I swear!
17 Sep 06
Originally posted by Vladamir no1There's some truth to that, probably. But maybe not as much as you would think.
Its a 'Westernised' Buddhism with all the connatations that 'Westernism' evokes, ie self advantage, mysticim of the orient, joining the latest trend/fad, occidental appropriation of the orient, essentialising the orient etc etc.
17 Sep 06
Originally posted by JeeI hate to break it to you, but by your characterization of "American", I know a lot of Americans who aren't "American".
there's a contradiction in terms to start with between America and Budhism
Budhism is getting read of everything to focus on your spirituality, while the American way is to waste all your life making money and not caring about spirituality (except praying god for money - eh eh)
17 Sep 06
Originally posted by NemesioAnd...you sort of enjoyed it, right? Especially the curry?
It's true!
Just the other day, a bunch of extremist Buddhists chased me into
a dead-end alley, held knives to my throat, stuffed curry in my mouth
and made me swear an oath on the demiurge that I will make my
inner Buddha see the light of Nirvana!
I swear!
18 Sep 06
Originally posted by LemonJelloLJ, if "practice" was abandoned within Buddhism, then it would be a false Buddhism, because Buddha's Forth Noble Truth specifies the need to use the Noble Eightfold Path, a large part of which is practice.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20060914/ts_csm/cbuddha
The word is that Buddhism is on the rise in America. My hope would be that more are introduced to Dharma practice -- not necessarily to "Buddhism" as a set of beliefs. This article seems to suggest that the movement of Buddhism in America is largely oriented toward meditative practices.
There are two main pillars to Buddhism --
1. The individual, separate self is not real
2. The way out of suffering is by letting go of attachments
North American culture is geared to the opposite of that, in a sense -- that is, the "self" is glorified, and as a result, attachment is as well (via the entertainment industry, which exhalts the notion of romantic love and the perfect soul-mate).
Because Buddhism at its core is very diametrically opposed to certain North American values, it becomes automatically attractive (opposites attract, generally), and potentially valuable as well, given that many of these Western values are ego-based.
18 Sep 06
Originally posted by LemonJelloI hope so 😉
I hate to break it to you, but by your characterization of "American", I know a lot of Americans who aren't "American".
I know so 😛
And I have met some weird buddhist too 😵
In Lao, people usually become for 4 years monks and then go back to work - no matter their age. It's like going to the army I guess. And the one who does that are very respected then.
Maybe it's something that caould be brought to Occident.
It was funny to talk to that monk over there and once and then glancing at his photo of him dressed as a builder - job that he will get back after his time as a monk.
It just change everything to choose to do that for a certain time and still be accepted by the society as normal.
We can all benefit from a lil spiritual break, don't we?
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18 Sep 06
Originally posted by JeeI thought you discarded logic? 😉
there's a contradiction in terms to start with between America and Budhism
Budhism is getting read of everything to focus on your spirituality, while the American way is to waste all your life making money and not caring about spirituality (except praying god for money - eh eh)
18 Sep 06
Originally posted by dj2beckerthat's because you dont read the answers to your own posts.
I thought you discarded logic? 😉
Originally posted by Jee
I aint discarding logic for myself. I just find it - after using it - not strong enough, not deep enough.
So I have logic + feeling as tools, you only got logic.
I am amazed how people that can't read can actually write.
I thought that was logically impossible.
Oh well...
19 Sep 06
Originally posted by MetamorphosisThere are two main pillars to Buddhism --
LJ, if "practice" was abandoned within Buddhism, then it would be a false Buddhism, because Buddha's Forth Noble Truth specifies the need to use the Noble Eightfold Path, a large part of which is practice.
There are two main pillars to Buddhism --
1. The individual, separate self is not real
2. The way out of suffering is by letting go of atta ...[text shortened]... ), and potentially valuable as well, given that many of these Western values are ego-based.
1. The individual, separate self is not real
2. The way out of suffering is by letting go of attachments
Can this be the shortest “sutra” ever? All the rest is commentary (or, better, practice...). (gassho)
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Commentary:
If you realize 1., it will facilitate (not likely to remove the necessity for) the rest of the letting-go practice—after all, who do you now think is hanging on to those other attachments?
If you realize 2. and follow it, sooner or later your letting-go practice will lead you to the I-construct attachment, and letting go of that.