21 Feb 13
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySeems like an impossible task for such an imperfect being as we humans.
[b]Absolute Truth
Here before we were born and still here after we're gone.
Our individual challenge in this fleeting life is to apprehend it.
Please discuss.
Edit: RHP Spirituality Forum Thread 8,000.[/b]
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by twhiteheadCan't say I see anything wrong in that. If our purpose is to live a happy life then how you achieve that happiness is irrelevant.
A surprising number of people are uninterested in that challenge (yourself included) and are much more interested in achieving a form of happiness through self delusion.
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by KeplerWhat leads you to believe that "our purpose is to live a happy life"?
Can't say I see anything wrong in that. If our purpose is to live a happy life then how you achieve that happiness is irrelevant.
What leads you to believe that "how you achieve that happiness is irrelevant"?
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by KeplerSadly, seeking a happy life for ourselves can cause misery for others. That is my main objection to religion and other forms of self delusion.
Can't say I see anything wrong in that. If our purpose is to live a happy life then how you achieve that happiness is irrelevant.
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIt's the best and most likely purpose I can come up with. If that is the purpose then how it is achieved seems irrelevant. Feel free to disagree, I am happy to allow you whatever purpose makes you happy.
What leads you to believe that "our purpose is to live a happy life"?
What leads you to believe that "how you achieve that happiness is irrelevant"?
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by twhiteheadNatural selection works that way, selfish gene and all that. It seems to me that is how life in general works despite various alleged do gooders trying to change things. It seems the natural nastiness of life forms will out no matter which god-goo is applied.
Sadly, seeking a happy life for ourselves can cause misery for others. That is my main objection to religion and other forms of self delusion.
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by KeplerHard to believe that, in reality, you don't have limits.
It's the best and most likely purpose I can come up with. If that is the purpose then how it is achieved seems irrelevant. Feel free to disagree, I am happy to allow you whatever purpose makes you happy.
Does that extend to stealing? Pedophelia? Rape? Serial killing?
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneProbably not. Those are criminal activities and most of the criminals I have come into conatct with, a fair number so far, have been miserable for the most part. Momentary pleasure is not living a happy life.
Hard to believe that, in reality, you don't have limits.
Does that extend to stealing? Pedophelia? Rape? Serial killing?
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by KeplerSo evidently you do have limts. Exactly where do you draw the line?
Probably not. Those are criminal activities and most of the criminals I have come into conatct with, a fair number so far, have been miserable for the most part. Momentary pleasure is not living a happy life.
21 Feb 13
Originally posted by KeplerYour words:
How do you equate "Live a happy life" with "no limits"? And why would you assume that happiness is a zero sum game?
If that is the purpose then how it is achieved seems irrelevant. Feel free to disagree, I am happy to allow you whatever purpose makes you happy.