10 Apr 05
Originally posted by gumbieSeems like the last time I looked there, one had to weed thru 6000+ pages of names to find your own. Now I see the link "View my relative position". Thanks for the heads up!
I find it hard to belive you haven't clicked on Player Tables in the eight months you have been here 😉
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10 Apr 05
I think the reason for rating inflation is that chess is getting easier. Oh, the government claim that it's because players are getting better. But I can remember the good old days, when you only started with 5 pawns, and no bishops. And you were blindfolded. And they hadn't invented the internet, so you had to send your move to Russ by telegram, and he'd ensure it would appear in the next morning's newspaper.
10 Apr 05
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Originally posted by flexmorePlayers don't start off at 1,200 but at p1,200. When you have a provisional rating you and your opponents aren't subject to the normal rules (see the FAQ). The system then estimates a player's true strength and they enter the normal system after 20 games with a rating hopefully close to their "true" rating. Opponents are rewarded and penalised on a reduced scale. If there is a problem it is probably generated here, since a 2,000+ strength player might join the site and get to 1,800 without taking more than say 200 points off their opponents and then leave and have their rating drop to 800 through timeouts thereby giving the 'in-play' community 800 ratings points overall. It's difficult to see how to correct for this.
i am guessing the incoming new people to rhp need to be assigned the correct rating to stop inflation.
maybe 1200 is too high ... thousands of them will simply get timed out in a few games and only add points to the pool.
an extra bonu ...[text shortened]... : they feel good about themselves as they build their points up 🙂
11 Apr 05
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Originally posted by DeepThoughttrue, such players will donate points to rhp.
Players don't start off at 1,200 but at p1,200. When you have a provisional rating you and your opponents aren't subject to the normal rules (see the FAQ). The system then estimates a player's true strength and they enter the norma ...[text shortened]... s points overall. It's difficult to see how to correct for this.
the idea of entry at 1200 is that a balance is found between those who go up in rating, and those who drop, with the idea that 1200 is in the middle somewhere.
but with our (very good🙂) system that allows high rated players to rise quickly without taking many points from those around them the balance is broken ... a new player is able to donate points, but they are not likely to ever subtract very many.
to correct this broken balance i believe the solution is to lower the entering rating ... i think p1100 is worth a try.
as i said before: this new lower rating of p1100 seems to have advantages only: the new players feel good as their rating climbs.
11 Apr 05
Originally posted by flexmoreI don't see rating inflation as a problem. As far as I can tell, it happens to some degree with all rating systems.
true, such players will donate points to rhp.
the idea of entry at 1200 is that a balance is found between those who go up in rating, and those who drop, with the idea that 1200 is in the middle somewhere.
but with our (very good🙂) system that allows high rated players to rise quickly without taking many points from those around them the balance is bro ...[text shortened]... rating of p1100 seems to have advantages only: the new players feel good as their rating climbs.
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11 Apr 05
Originally posted by Ragnorakif rhp ratings inflate then they will still be internally consistent .... but they can also have some small relation to other ratings: fide especially being of interest ... also uscf and others.
I don't see rating inflation as a problem. As far as I can tell, it happens to some degree with all rating systems.
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you say "As far as I can tell, it happens to some degree with all rating systems."
what !!???!?!?!?!?!
it is very easy to setup a system where DEflation will occur .... just imagine rhp where the new people now come in at 0 points.
online chess is special ... with multiple simultaneous games being the norm the dynamics are different.
- and the solution for russ is very simple.
11 Apr 05
Originally posted by flexmoreI meant all existing rating systems. I read somewhere that FIDE ratings are inflating.
if rhp ratings inflate then they will still be internally consistent .... but they can also have some small relation to other ratings: fide especially being of interest ... also uscf and others.
you say "As far as I can tell, it happens to some degree with all rating systems."
what !!???!?!?!?!?!
it is very easy to setup a system where DEflation wil ...[text shortened]... games being the norm the dynamics are different.
- and the solution for russ is very simple.
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11 Apr 05
Originally posted by RagnorakAgain, I have to agree with Ragnorak. I don't think it's a problem.
I don't see rating inflation as a problem. As far as I can tell, it happens to some degree with all rating systems.
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Furthermore, I still haven't seen anyone find a statistic that proves there *is* any substantial inflation, or what the trend might be.
Seems like we might be worrying over a problem we don't even have ...