27 Jun '06 19:24>
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveConfirmed
idiot
Originally posted by Gastel
It's idiotic to support the people who put in the effort to supply you with a quality service? You need to re-evaluate your contribution to humanity.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemI subscribe to the site in order to support it. The clans and tournaments are just that - extras. Consider it a 'Thank you for subscribing' feature if you wish.
LOL
Who knew subscribing put one on a level with Mother Theresa?
Another subscriber waxing virtuous about their lost $29. I wonder how many of you would pay for the site if you [b]didn't get any extra features!? I say, pay the money and renounce your clans, tournaments, sieges, and extra games, if you're so concerned about 'contributing to humanity'.[/b]
Originally posted by HindsteinOk, if the clans and tournaments are just extras, then I challenge you to abandon your clan and resign all your tournament games. Prove that you're really subscribing just for the sheer joy of seeing the site run! 🙄
I subscribe to the site in order to support it. The clans and tournaments are just that - extras. Consider it a 'Thank you for subscribing' feature if you wish.
However, one thing is for sure, the site wouldn't exist without people subscribing. I'm sure that it couldn't survive on the revenue from advertising alone
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemWho's paying for the bandwith to keep that site on the internet? It is free to users but not free.
Ok, if the clans and tournaments are just extras, then I challenge you to abandon your clan and resign all your tournament games. Prove that you're really subscribing just for the sheer joy of seeing the site run! 🙄
[b]However, one thing is for sure, the site wouldn't exist without people subscribing.
Wrong. It started out without paid subs ...[text shortened]... chess site that offers far more features for free than RHP, and it is still alive and kicking.[/b]
Originally posted by reader1107Of course, sub-only services consume more bandwidth, too.
Who's paying for the bandwith to keep that site on the internet? It is free to users but not free.
Personally, I don't care if non-subs get their own forum. Forums/fora for minors and language-specific forums are fine too. Whatever.
Edit -- really, non-subs getting a forum doesn't have any affect on my sub-hood or anyone else's.
Originally posted by KJCavalierYes, I agree. The reason I suggested this in the first place was basically to show my disagreement with those who had been spouting off for subscriber only forums - as THEY pay for this site so only THEY should be allowed to use them.
Now the idea of a non-sub forum where subscribers are only allowed in by invitation is just plain absurd. with all the open forums that are available, and non-subs free use to them (might I add unlimited) really is more than fair enough.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemI think that you have missed the point. Either that or I didn't make it very well in the first place.
Ok, if the clans and tournaments are just extras, then I challenge you to abandon your clan and resign all your tournament games. Prove that you're really subscribing just for the sheer joy of seeing the site run! 🙄
[b]However, one thing is for sure, the site wouldn't exist without people subscribing.
Wrong. It started out without paid subs ...[text shortened]... chess site that offers far more features for free than RHP, and it is still alive and kicking.[/b]
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemJust to throw a different point to your "Google" theory. Google makes a vast majority of its revenue through advertising, because that is it's business. Wether it is for products, services, iformation, technical advances, and so on and so forth. It's added "benifits" are to keep people going to their site for it's information services. This is a chess site, The only searching that is really done here is on the various games and opponents. Not a real cause for advertisng as a hugh market here. Sure there is some revenue from it, but not the source that a Google will have.
Of course, sub-only services consume more bandwidth, too.
There are sites that offer free image hosting, and pay for it with ad clicks. Google is now a huge company (stock value, at least!), and they got there mainly via ad revenue. Yes folks, it can be done without directly billing the users!
Originally posted by HindsteinYour challenge is incredibly childish. Just because the extras were not the reason I subscribed doesn't mean that I ought to boycott them to prove a point.
I think that you have missed the point. Either that or I didn't make it very well in the first place.
Your challenge is incredibly childish. Just because the extras were not the reason I subscribed doesn't mean that I ought to boycott them to prove a point. If you want proof, check out my game history - you'll see that I joined the site in June (and ...[text shortened]...
Is this other site you talk about entirely free with no subscription option? I doubt it.
Originally posted by KJCavalierIf true, your argument only shows that RHP is not a very profitable business compared to Google. If there's few people to see the ads, then there's also few people to pay a subscription fee.
Just to throw a different point to your "Google" theory. Google makes a vast majority of its revenue through advertising, because that is it's business. Wether it is for products, services, iformation, technical advances, and so on and so forth. It's added "benifits" are to keep people going to their site for it's information services. This is a chess sit ...[text shortened]... ket here. Sure there is some revenue from it, but not the source that a Google will have.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemBigDogg,
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No. But I don't begrudge the paying players the right to have hundreds of games, play on multiple teams, etc.
However, the above site offers ALL of the following for FREE:
-20 concurrent games
-Ability to join 1 team
-Ability to play 1 tourney every 6 weeks
-Public [b]and private (team) forum access
-A wide array ...[text shortened]... yHouse to FischerRandom to Suicide
So tell me, Hindstein, why haven't they gone broke yet??[/b]
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemI think that this is true!
If true, your argument only shows that RHP is not a very profitable business compared to Google. If there's few people to see the ads, then there's also few people to pay a subscription fee.
Originally posted by HindsteinI don't see any ads at all while using Firefox.
BigDogg,
I think that you have misunderstood me. I am not a campainer against you or any other non-subscriber requesting more site features. I perhaps don't believe you will be successful in you quest to get the above differences between the two sites implemented, but I have nothing against the request.
I merely responded to your question on the l ...[text shortened]... so much, why are you campaining for change here, instead of playing chess there?
🙂
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveAnd how often do you donate to this site?
I don't see any ads at all while using Firefox.
I do know a chess site that is free for everthing - they accept donations, like this one did before subscriptions - maybe they will have subscriptions eventually. [I am not claiming it is as good as RHP but it is ok]
I won't advertise it here but if proof is required send me a pm.