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Originally posted by whodeyOriginal or specific?
What is it?
Originally posted by sonhouseThat's pretty much my question though.
As to what particles make up space and time, good luck with that one, news at 11. Strings, triangles, lots of hypotheses but no evidence yet.[/b]
Originally posted by Metal BrainNo it doesn't. I don't know where you got this notion that gravity is due to time dilation, but I strongly suggest you try another reference.
Time dilation causes curvature of space-time.
Saying curvature of space-time causes gravity is like saying low pressure areas are caused by curvature of the atmosphere. Do clouds move toward low pressure because of a curvature of the atmosphere?
Originally posted by Metal Brain
Time dilation causes curvature of space-time.
Saying curvature of space-time causes gravity is like saying low pressure areas are caused by curvature of the atmosphere. Do clouds move toward low pressure because of a curvature of the atmosphere?
Time dilation causes curvature of space-time.
Saying curvature of space-time causes gravity is like saying ...
Originally posted by Metal BrainSaying "Time dilation causes curvature of space-time" is not even an "explanation" let alone a "better explanation".
You have a better explanation?
Originally posted by humynote that the examples of "time dilation not causing gravity" I speak of here are examples where there is time dilation without gravity being present or at least without greater gravity being present.
Saying "Time dilation causes curvature of space-time" is not even an "explanation" let alone a "better explanation".
Exactly HOW does "Time dilation causes curvature of space-time"? ...
WHY is time dilution required before there can be any gravity? ....
If time dilation 'causes' gravity, why are the examples of time dilation not causing gravity?
Originally posted by humy"Curvature of space-time can be viewed as being gravity as opposed to 'causing' gravity."Time dilation causes curvature of space-time.
WOW your combination of ignorance and arrogance simply knows no bounds. So you think you understated relativity? -your above nonsense assertion proves you certainly don't at it is complete and utter gibberish to anyone with a physics degree.
Please show all us scientists that we are all wro ...[text shortened]...
Curvature of space-time can be viewed as being gravity as opposed to 'causing' gravity.
Originally posted by humyCurvature of space-time does not really happen if you use the term curvature literally. I could argue there is no such thing.
Saying "Time dilation causes curvature of space-time" is not even an "explanation" let alone a "better explanation".
Exactly HOW does "Time dilation causes curvature of space-time"? ...
WHY is time dilution required before there can be any gravity? ....
If time dilation 'causes' gravity, why are the examples of time dilation not causing gravity?
Originally posted by humyI am aware of time dilation without gravity, but that is from moving through space. That does not disprove gravity is time dilation. The two could also be linked. All atoms have electrons that travel close to the speed of light in the confinement of their shells.
note that the examples of "time dilation not causing gravity" I speak of here are examples where there is time dilation without gravity being present or at least without greater gravity being present.
Originally posted by Metal BrainIt's hard to disprove anything about gravity because you cannot measure it other then observing invisible forces moving things like in a cheap horror film in October.
I am aware of time dilation without gravity, but that is from moving through space. That does not disprove gravity is time dilation. The two could also be linked. All atoms have electrons that travel close to the speed of light in the confinement of their shells.
I guess you could say I am just renaming gravity, but I am being more specific so I don't see it that way.
Originally posted by Metal BrainWhy don't you try publishing your idea that time dilation causes gravity?
"Curvature of space-time can be viewed as being gravity as opposed to 'causing' gravity."
Time dilation is gravity. Curvature of space-time is just a term to visualize the effects of gravity much like there are curvy lines around low and high pressure areas on a weather map.
I never said curvature of space-time causes anything. Personally, I don't ...[text shortened]... above, but that still leaves gravity a mystery unless you accept that gravity is time dilation.
Originally posted by Metal BrainHow would you know this? What is the source of your information?
Curvature of space-time is just a term to visualize the effects of gravity much like there are curvy lines around low and high pressure areas on a weather map.
Originally posted by Metal Brain
Curvature of space-time does not really happen if you use the term curvature literally. I could argue there is no such thing.
You could say that curvature of space-time is the same thing as gravity. You could say that both are the same as gravitational time dilation. I think you are making the mistake of thinking gravity has an explanation at all. An ...[text shortened]... explain what causes curvature of space-time? Don't say gravity. They are the same thing, right?
You could say that both are the same as gravitational time dilation.
I think you are making the mistake of thinking gravity has an explanation at all.
Can you explain what causes gravitational time dilation?