Was wondering why Rooks are more powerful than minors

Was wondering why Rooks are more powerful than minors

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rooks are very powerful they just never get out til endgame -I sometimes wonder if a shogi rule could be added to chess;

- the ability to remove a pawn infront of a rook as a move, there are quite a few times for me that would be useful.

With 'square counting' they eclipse minor pieces, but its hard realising that. i regularly sac pawns to open up rooks, the posistion is worth more without the pawn infront of the rook!

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What is the quickest mate with a Black King's Rook?

Here is a taster. You have to do better...and be quick before Swiss G. ambles along.



From games played on RHP this 7 mover with the a8 Rook has happened
quite a few times.

AThousandYoung (1246) hamid0001 (1259) RHP 2011

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
What is the quickest mate with a Black King's Rook?

Here is a taster. You have to do better...and be quick before Swiss G. ambles along.

[pgn]
1. e3 h5 2. Ke2 Nf6 3. Kf3 Rh6 4. Kf4 d6 5. Kg5 e5 6. h4 Rg6[/pgn]

From games played on RHP this 7 mover with the a8 Rook has happened
quite a few times.

AThousandYoung (1246) hamid0001 (1259) RHP 2 ...[text shortened]... 6. Qxd8+ Rxd8 {Sometimes White plays 7.Bxc6+ here and then grabs the e5 pawn.}7. Nxe5 Rd1[/pgn]

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5 moves is trivial as shown by:



...but I can't find one in 4 moves.

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I guess its all about the amount of squares a piece controls at any given time. Rooks are weak in the opening until they are connected and/or have open files to work along.

The knight is the most powerful guy in the starting position because it is not disrupted by the pawns.

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- edit ๐Ÿ™‚ was not worth postiong afterall ๐Ÿ™‚ rooks are good.

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This was the game i was going to post - i got beaten quite bad! I missed 17 Bf5g4 very nice move, but i saw that if i gave up my queen there was still some (deluded) hope of continuing my attack with 2 rooks. If i don't, it actualy looks worse so i moved the king to open up the rook, it just might of worked in a blitz game.