offering a draw

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k

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18 May 09

when is it ok to offer a draw.(im new at this)

F

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Originally posted by kaminsky
when is it ok to offer a draw.(im new at this)
The general rule of etiquette (I think) is like this:

It's always okay to offer draw when you think (in some probability) the draw will be accepted.
It's not okay when your opponent has no reason to accept it.

k

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thx, that sounds like a minefield

F

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Originally posted by kaminsky
thx, that sounds like a minefield
Actually it isn't.

If you cross the etiquette once, he just rejects it. Twice, then he might get annoyed, but nothing more. Thrice he perhaps will comment on it. But as you are new at it you will be forgiven. This is not a minefield.

So if you feel that it's worth asking, then just do. Just don't repeat it to many times to the same opponent.

k

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thx

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Linkenheim

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In fact I repeated a draw offer once 39 moves in a row with just two Kings on the board 🙂

R

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18 May 09

Originally posted by Ponderable
In fact I repeated a draw offer once 39 moves in a row with just two Kings on the board 🙂
LOL!
In such a case you just claim it due to insufficient mating material rather than offer one.

F

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Originally posted by Ponderable
In fact I repeated a draw offer once 39 moves in a row with just two Kings on the board 🙂
Who laughed most? You or him?

z

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Originally posted by Ponderable
In fact I repeated a draw offer once 39 moves in a row with just two Kings on the board 🙂
Does not RHP automatically make this a draw?

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Originally posted by znsho
Does not RHP automatically make this a draw?
No, it has to be claimed. But when you do, and the system agrees with you, your get your draw automatically. but you have to initiate it yourself with a proper claim.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
No, it has to be claimed. But when you do, and the system agrees with you, your get your draw automatically. but you have to initiate it yourself with a proper claim.
What I mean is, stalemate comes up as draw. The three-move rule has to be claimed. But, just two Ks is simply a draw - no other way.

Perhaps RHP should be modified to allow this to be a draw automatically.

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Originally posted by znsho
What I mean is, stalemate comes up as draw. The three-move rule has to be claimed. But, just two Ks is simply a draw - no other way.

Perhaps RHP should be modified to allow this to be a draw automatically.
Dunno.

I saw 2 kids play on K vs K, in a tournament.

The arbiter let them play on, as a learning thing if nothing else.

Bizarrely, one of them resigned.

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Originally posted by znsho
What I mean is, stalemate comes up as draw. The three-move rule has to be claimed. But, just two Ks is simply a draw - no other way.

Perhaps RHP should be modified to allow this to be a draw automatically.
I thought it was a "three position rule", i.e. the exact same position occurs three times in a game, a draw may be claimed. Don't mind me, I'm just passing through, I never play for a draw anyways; couldn't care less about my rating.

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Originally posted by rking00
I thought it was a "three position rule", i.e. the exact same position occurs three times in a game, a draw may be claimed. Don't mind me, I'm just passing through, I never play for a draw anyways; couldn't care less about my rating.
Correct.
He mixed threefold repetition with 50 move rule making it a 3 move rule.
No problem,both have to be claimed.
Could've been worse,it could've come out as a fiftyfold repetition.Imagine having to count that during a game 😛

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Originally posted by Romanticus
Correct.
He mixed threefold repetition with 50 move rule making it a 3 move rule.
No problem,both have to be claimed.
Could've been worse,it could've come out as a fiftyfold repetition.Imagine having to count that during a game 😛
You wouldn't have to count it. Long before that happened you would have 50 moves without a pawn move or a capture. 😛