Originally posted by Dragon Fire
I've read critisism of this for black but I was getting a bit disillusioned with Kings Indian not getting me the results I wanted so switched back to this after a break of 20 years.

First 12 games as black W 8 D 4 L 0 against average opposition rated 1716.

Compare this to my performance as black against the Ruy Lopez
P16 W10 D4 L2 against much wea ...[text shortened]... whereas in Game 2505382 I think I got slightly lucky but which move lost this for white!

Tal used it a lot, so it can't be too bad.

Originally posted by cmsMaster
Tal used it a lot, so it can't be too bad.

Haha, yes it can! Just because Tal used it doesn't mean people haven't found better since. Tal never faced the Flick Knife Variation (I think). Even so, I still love the Modern Benoni, and even though I take some savage beatings sometimes, I still love to play it and screw around.

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Haha, yes it can! Just because Tal used it doesn't mean people haven't found better since. Tal never faced the Flick Knife Variation (I think). Even so, I still love the Modern Benoni, and even though I take some savage beatings sometimes, I still love to play it and screw around.

😛 I do tend to play risky, if not somewhat dubious openings, don't I? I think there's still life left in the Modern Benoni - The Benoni in general has plenty of life left. I'm going to look up this "Flick Knife variation" to see what all the fuss is about.

BTW: I'll play what Tal played no matter how dubious 😛

Originally posted by !~TONY~!
Hahaha. I am sure you would love the ..Nbd7 lines in response to Bb5+. They are completely insane.

Insane is my style. 😀 I had a really fun friendly game the other night where I played a whole bunch of insane moves (Didn't take a mate in one, and sacced my queen, and still got a winning position - but I resigned because I couldn't find the winning move very quickly and I had to go 😛)

EDIT: Here's the PGN 😀. I couldn't find Be6, so I gave him the mate 😉. It looks like a couple of 1200's playing 😛

[Event "rated standard match"]
[Site "Free Internet Chess Server"]
[Date "2006.09.21"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CMSBones"]
[Black "itsatimemachine"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "1391"]
[BlackElo "1495P"]
[ECO "C31"]
[TimeControl "1200"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 exf4 4. Nc3 Bd6 5. d4 Nf6 6. Nf3 Bg4 7. Bc4 O-O 8.
O-O Bf5 9. Ne5 Nbd7 10. Bxf4 Ne4 11. Bh6 $2 {Crafty (score -0.47 at depth 8)
thinks this is not a good move} ({Crafty suggests:} 11. Qd3 Nxc3 12. Qxf5
Nxe5 13. Bxe5 Bxe5 14. Qxe5 Re8 15. Qf5 $18 {(score 1.89 at depth 8)} ) Bxe5
12. Rxf5 Bxd4+ $4 {Crafty (score 6.39 at depth 9) thinks this is a blunder}
({Crafty suggests:} 12. ... Bxh2+ 13. Kxh2 Qh4+ 14. Kg1 Nxc3 15. Qd2 Nb6 16.
Qxc3 Qxh6 17. Re1 Nxc4 18. Qxc4 $11 {(score 0.00 at depth 8)} ) 13. Qxd4 Nd6
$4 {This offers a mate in 1 to the opponent} ({Crafty suggests:} 13. ... gxh6
14. Nxe4 a6 15. Rf3 f6 16. d6+ Kh8 17. Raf1 Ne5 $18 {(score 6.43 at depth 8)}
) 14. Qg4 $4 {Mate in 1 missed} (14. Qxg7# {(score 327.66 at depth 2)} ) Nxf5
15. Qxf5 Qf6 $2 {Crafty (score 3.42 at depth 10) thinks this is not a good
move} ({Crafty suggests:} 15. ... gxh6 16. Bd3 Nf6 17. Ne4 Ne8 18. Nd6 Nf6
19. Nxb7 Qxd5 20. Qxf6 Qxb7 21. Qxh6 $11 {(score 0.02 at depth 9)} ) 16. Qxd7
Qxh6 17. Qxc7 Qe3+ 18. Kh1 Rfe8 $2 {Crafty (score 3.95 at depth 9) thinks
this is not a good move} ({Crafty suggests:} 18. ... Rac8 19. Qxb7 Rxc4 20.
d6 Qc5 21. Qe7 Rd4 22. Rd1 Rxd1+ 23. Nxd1 Qxc2 $14 {(score 0.33 at depth 9)}
) 19. Rf1 Re7 20. d6 $4 {Crafty (score -0.66 at depth 10) thinks this is a
blunder} ({Crafty suggests:} 20. Qf4 Qxf4 21. Rxf4 Re1+ 22. Rf1 Rxf1+ 23.
Bxf1 Rd8 24. Kg1 Rd6 25. Kf2 Kf8 $18 {(score 4.01 at depth 9)} ) Rxc7 21.
dxc7 Rc8 22. Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Nd5 Qe5 24. a3 Qxb2 25. Be6 Re8 $2 {Crafty (score
3.21 at depth 9) thinks this is not a good move} ({Crafty suggests:} 25. ...
Qb5 26. Ne3 Qe8 27. Bxc8 Qxc8 28. Rf7 Qe8 29. Re7 Qc8 30. Nd5 Kg8 $14 {(score
0.36 at depth 11)} ) 26. c8=Q Rxc8 27. Bxc8 h6 28. Rf8+ Kh7 29. Bf5+ g6 30.
Rf7+ Kg8 31. Bxg6 $4 {This offers a mate in 2 to the opponent} ({Crafty
suggests:} 31. Be6 Kh8 32. g3 Qxa3 33. c4 Qc1+ 34. Kg2 Qc2+ 35. Kh3 a5 36.
Rf8+ Kg7 37. Rf7+ Kh8 $18 {(score 2.98 at depth 10)} ) Qb1+ {Game aborted by
mutual agreement} *